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Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hanson, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

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All right, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast with Shannon Hanson, myself. Today we are talking about the 80 20 rule, and how does that pertain to thyroid or does it even pertain to thyroid imbalances? And by 80 20, I don't mean eating 80% clean and 20% junk food. What I mean by 80 20 is 80% nutrition, 20% exercise. Okay? This is, there's a lot of 80 twentys out there. And one of the things that I want to, well, before we go there, <laugh>, I want to fill you guys in. So I am recording from the car, and I, part of the reason for this is many, many moon ago, before I even had my business online, before I even knew what I was doing, I remember listening to a podcast in my kitchen, at my kitchen sink, and I just had this overwhelming feeling of, you're gonna have a podcast today.

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I didn't know what my podcast was gonna be about. I didn't know <laugh>, I didn't know anything, right? And as time went on, as little by little, I learned and developed like my thyroid story and found ways to overcome it, and started wanting to work with people and on and on and on a podcast just made logical sense because a lot of listeners, a lot of consumers out there, we want different forms of long form content, meaning video, right? Like a YouTube channel, meaning like a blog where you can go search the person's blog information, or in my case, a podcast. And I chose a podcast because I remember listening, I think it was to the Gold digger, Gold digger and maybe a few other people like Stephanie Gas and, and whatever. And they all talked about recording podcast episodes from their car because they were busy moms and they were commuted, and they were doing driveline, and they were doing all of these things.

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And I was like, That is the lifestyle that I want. I want to be able to make money, but also maximize my time. Like, what else am I gonna do in the car? I mean, come on, <laugh>. I, well, really what I have been doing as I listen to audiobooks or I listen to podcasts some of my trainings that I do professionally, if some of the trainings can be just listened to in an audio format, and then I can go home and take the quiz, like, what a great use of my time. And I'm all about getting stuff done, right? I probably why I'm where I'm at. And in that burnout adrenal exhaustion phase is because I love to get things accomplished. And that feels very satisfying for me. And as the years have gone on, I've, I'm learning to slow down and take time for myself.

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And there we go. So let's dive into this 80 20 rule. Now, I believe that health encompasses five main areas, four areas, the five, right? Like, I'm gonna throw five in there because, because of the modern society that we are in. So first, diet, diet, diet, diet, we can do so much with our body simply by changing what we are putting into our body, okay? We have tons of podcasts where we talk about diet and the importance of nutrition. And when I mean diet, I don't mean deprivation, I mean nutritional intake, okay? And everybody's body is so vastly different. My nutritional needs are different than my husbands. Both of our needs are different than our children. My needs are gonna be listened to Jessica, the, you know, out there listening to the podcast, her nutritional needs, even though we may be similar age, right?

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Early thirties, mid thirties. I, I think I have officially gotten into the mid thirties this year. I don't know, 33 <laugh>. Is that mid thirties? I don't know. Okay. Side note you know, early, mid thirties, thyroid, adrenal four kids, right? Like, even though we have a lot of similarities, there are going to be different nutritional needs for each one of us. I live in Arizona, it is hot outside and I sweat, so I might need more water than she does. She may be a slow oxidizer, and I'm a fast oxidizer. Like the ratios of protein, carbs, and fats are gonna be different, okay? The second component of this is rest. Now, I am <laugh>. I am going to say this, and I've worked with a lot of people and people are like, Oh, yeah, I sleep fine, you guys, y'all aren't sleeping good.

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<Laugh>, it may be your normal and you may talk to your friend, but it's not normal. It may be common, but it's not normal, okay? So sleep is vitally important. Rest is vitally important at allowing our body to restore itself and repair and rejuvenate. And for many, many years, I, after having kids, my sleep got put on the, on the back burner. I was running the business from the basement of my home, and I was staying up till 1, 2, 3 o'clock in the morning only to be woken up in the middle of the night by babies. And then up at six, maybe seven o'clock, and I was freaking exhausted, okay? And I did that for way too long. And that, once again, has impacted my health. And even, so let's say you're out of the baby making phase. Maybe you're in the menopausal phase where you either have insomnia or you're waking up frequently in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.

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That may be, like I said, common. You may talk to a friend and she's like, Oh yeah, I have that. My, my doctor's not worried about it. Or, you know, you're sitting at the table and five out of six of your friends, same thing. Just because it is common does not mean that it is normal, Okay? So please make that separation and prioritize your sleep. So prioritizing your sleep means like seven to eight hours of sleep at night, restful sleep. You should wake up in the morning feeling rejuvenated, ready to go. Okay? The third part is exercise. Yay, exercise <laugh>. And that can feel overwhelming, it can feel daunting, it can feel time consuming. I felt like I was starting to get in a good exercise routine. And then I got pregnant with baby number four. Y'all know, I got super sick lots of food reactions, very tired. I had a lot going on externally in my life. And then later in my pregnancy, I got even more sick where I was pretty much in bed for a good six months. Or not six months, six weeks I walking, I, I did not go upstairs for more than four months, okay? It was too exhausting, took too much out of me. And that really left me in a bad situation because my laundry room is upstairs.

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And exercise at that point was not an option for my body. However, I coming after postpartum, and it was really difficult to get back into the swing of things, I'll be honest. It was, it was extremely challenging to go back to that because I spent so long being pregnant and so long in the bed not using muscles, it was like, Oh my gosh, I am so weak. But I didn't wanna go back to the gym because I didn't wanna be sore. Okay? But exercise is super, super important. And I'm gonna tell you guys another quick little side note about exercise for me recently is I started doing pure bar. I was a former dancer, I love dancing. And I was like, this is something I can get behind. It's not dance, but there are similar movements and techniques and things. And I was like, it would be as close to dance for me as possible while still getting in a good exercise, low impact lots of stretching, lots of movements and, and building muscle.

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And so that was definitely something that appealed to me. And they just opened a studio right by my house and I jumped in and I did a couple classes, and then guess what? It was Friday night, one kid's at softball, another kids playing with friends. It is dinner time. I had probably, it was a really challenging workout. And I remember thinking halfway through, I should just give up. Like, this isn't worth it. I don't know if things will ever change or ever get easier. And then I was like, No, Shannon, keep going. Like, if you give up now <laugh>, you're not gonna gonna be any further ahead, right? And so I did, I pursued, I persevered and after class, I got out to the car and immediately it was like, I feel bad. I'm not at the softball game. I feel bad that I'm missing this kid's activities and, and I need to go pick up this kid.

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And so immediately I'm on, I'm back on the phone making calls, making arrangements, trying to figure out dinner, you know, putting all the puzzle pieces together. And I broke down, I broke down crying to my husband on the phone, and I was like, Why do I feel so guilty for, for going and exercising? And he's like, You shouldn't feel guilty. I'm like, But I do. Where is this guilt coming from? And I think for so long, and society tells us that our job as women is to take care of everybody else's needs and to prioritize everybody else's needs ahead of our own. And this can be very confusing to the brain, right? Like, I am trying to take care of myself and exercise so that I have a good, strong, healthy body and I can participate in activities with my kids and I can be around as a grandma and I can play on the floor with my grandkids and I can do simple things.

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You guys, I have a friend who is a personal trainer and she focuses on strength in a, in a realistic and functional way. She's like, I just want some of these people to be able to carry in their groceries from from the car to the house. I want them to be able to sit down on the toilet and stand up. And that has always been something that I have held onto because I'm like, Yeah, what if I can't do that? What if sitting down on the floor and getting up becomes challenging? I don't want that, right? And so it's not about going to the gym and getting skinnier, it's about maintaining function of my body that is more important to me. Okay? Of course, I wanna lose weight. I think all of this women, you know, whether it's five pounds, 10 pounds, 15 pounds, like most of us could be there.

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Some people with hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism, they're like, Yeah, I wanna gain a couple pounds, right? But either way it's something to, something to keep in mind. So exercise for me is more about the functionality of my body and the range of motion that I have. I want to be able to go on a hike with my kids and not be exhausted. I want to be able to climb the 1500 million stairs to take my kids to the biggest water side and slide down and not feel completely exhausted and out of breath. I don't wanna take them to these water parks where you have to all step on the scale and be worried if I'm gonna be the person that's gonna put them over the weight limit, okay? And that comes by physically moving my body that comes from the exercise and the care. And so yes, I'm still working through the mom guilt of I shouldn't be, shouldn't be you know, exercising.

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Which in all reality, for me to spend three to four hours every single week, exercising outside the home should not be that big of a deal. But I think for many of us women, it is a big deal. And let me just say pure bar, if you guys know, you know, it's kind of expensive, like a monthly membership for me. I don't know about all of the areas and all of the places I got in cuz it's a brand new place, so I think they're doing like a, a discount or whatever. It's like $140 a month that is not cheap. And it, I think that might be where some of the other guilt it for me is coming from because I <laugh> that is a consistent expense that I now have and now I now cure. I, I accrue, right? But I don't get my nails done the way that I used to.

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I don't get my hair done. I don't do fake eyelashes and and stuff anymore. Like, so why not prioritize that money into myself and my physical body? Hopefully you guys, and I, and I'm saying this to the listeners out there because I know there are other women who feel and think the way that I do, I could spend $180 on horseback riding for my kid and I not even a month, right? And I wouldn't even blink an eye because it's for them, okay? It's more expensive. But for them, I would do it. I would find a way to, to do it and to make it happen and whatever. But for myself, it's like, ooh, that's uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't know that. I don't, I, here's what it really is, you guys. I don't know if I am worthy or worth $140 a month and time, but oh man, this feels big.

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I'm having a breakthrough on <laugh> on this podcast. I would not want my kids, my daughters to ever think or feel that about themselves. I would not want them to grow up and become an adult and have children and not think that they were worthy of taking care of themselves and spending $140 a month on exercise and whatever. Okay, so you mama's out there, you are worth it. You are absolutely worth the time, the energy, the finances, all of it. More money can be made, things can be sold. I mean, don't go crazy. I'm not giving you permission to go crazy, but I am giving you permission to forget the Starbucks and to spend time exercising or doing whatever you need to work on. Okay? All right. So that's number three. Number four is stress management. I had a blank <laugh> stress management. Oh my goodness. I think many of us and listening to the podcast

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Can relate to high stress, whether it's long term, short term, but a lot of us can relate to, to stress. I grew up in a very stressful environment growing up and I think there's still a part of me that is holding on to the residual feeling of being stressed out because that's all that I know versus my husband who was like, Oh, that's fine, no big deal. Oh, they'll all work out. And I'm thinking, what are you talking about? Like this is no, no <laugh>, you know, And guess what? He's right. It always ends up working out and it always works out okay. It may not be what I thought, but this is where stress management comes into play, is sometimes that stress is perceived stress. It's not actual stress, it is perceived stress based on external factors. Some of these things are in our control, some of them are out of our control, right? In control would be, I just went and spent a thousand dollars on, I don't know, new shoes, but my mortgage is a thousand dollars and now I don't know how I'm gonna pay my mortgage. Perceived stress. That would be something in our control

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Versus an external thing that, I'm trying to think of a a good example. Somebody hits you in a car accident, right? Like that is out of your control and they weren't paying attention. It wasn't you not paying attention. Now you're having to fix all of the <laugh>, all of the other pieces and so on and so forth. Okay? And the last one is gonna be supplementation. So I I, I've gotten this question from my clients are like, am I gonna have to supplement for the rest of my life? And the answer is yes and no. Okay? <Laugh>, I I have a love hate relationship with supplements. I love taking supplements, especially ones that make me feel really good or that I feel like I working or I can see kind of some kind of result from taking said supplement.

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On the other hand, sometimes I don't like swallowing pills. Sometimes I don't want that to be part of my routine or my ritual for the day because I'm exhausted and I'm burnt out and I just don't wanna deal with it, right? <Laugh>. So yes, I, I, and I'm, I'm trying to like be careful with what I say only because everybody is so different. But one of the things that I like my clients to consider is at least taking digestive enzymes when you're going out to eat. Because while it may be gluten free, while it may be you know better for you or you know, whatever, there's usually things when you go out to eat that you don't encounter at home. For example, they put certain preservatives on salad stuff for a salad bar. And that's something that's not necessarily in your control, right? And not that those, well, I mean ideally we don't want the preservatives, but it might be a little bit harder on your stomach to digest and to break down.

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I had a client a while ago, she sent me this picture and it was like, you could tell she was at a super nice fancy restaurant. It was like a flame and yon with asparagus and thick mashed potatoes or something along those lines. And it was like this beautiful beautiful plate that had this, some kind of sauce drizzle around the edges and it just looked incredible, right? And she took a picture and she sent it to me and she said, Why did I feel so terrible afterwards, <laugh>, she's like, There shouldn't be any thing on this plate that I shouldn't be eating. And I was like, you know, it might be the oils that they're cooking, the things in the, maybe even if they're using butter, the butter could have been at too high of a smoke point and then it went rancid and then now you're eating it and not feeling good.

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Like, I don't know cuz I don't know all how everything was cooked and prepared. And so my advice to someone externally is to take digestive enzymes. And my other advice is probiotics, you guys, those are my two, two big ones that I'm like, yeah, everybody should at least have those in their closet or have not closet, but like have access to those two things to use. There's different enzymes, there's different probiotics, you know, and, and different probiotics are used for different things. If you guys head over to the Facebook group Thriving Thyroid Balance Community and Search Probiotics, I have a graphic that I think it says something like Best probiotics and then there's like a list of probiotics and which strands are used for what. And I have a friend, a family member that was like, What can I do for allergies? And I was like, consider taking this probiotic.

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And she did all summer and she came and told me a couple weeks ago, she's like, I did not have to take any allergy medicine. I didn't have to do zertech, I didn't have to do, I don't even know all of the allergy medicines Claratin or Benadryl or anything like that. She said it was by far my best, best allergy season. And I was like, amazing. So she is a believer in that and it's just so important to know what we're doing. And our body goes through different phases and has different nutritional needs based on different points in our life. My nutritional needs while I'm pregnant in nursing is gonna be different than someone who is going through menopause and supplementation can fill in those gaps because sometimes food is going to leave us with gaps, especially if you are a picky eater, especially if you don't like certain things.

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All of that is totally fine. But then we also need to take a wider picture and a wider range and say, you know what? These supplementations are helping to fill in those gaps so that I can have good, healthy lifestyle. Okay, so I have rambled on more and longer than I thought I was going to about those five things, but I want you guys to consider the 80 20 rule abs I are made in the kitchen. It's going to be dependent upon what you are eating. And I will tell you currently one of the big things that I am working on is getting in enough protein. I am drastically deficient in protein every single day. And it is a, the struggle is real. The struggle is real and I find that I do really good for breakfast and dinner lunchtime is my struggle because I don't necessarily want to cook something for lunch.

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And what ends up happening is everybody takes my leftovers cuz they look amazing and they taste amazing and that's what they wanna eat. And so I don't have enough protein for lunch and like, and in, in all honesty, I do best with animal protein. I could do hep seeds and things like that, but it's not the same for me as like chicken or beef or something like that. And so one of the big areas that I am personally working on is getting more protein in my diet, being more prepared with extra protein without getting myself burnt out of the same thing. And one of the things that I have found the most beneficial for me to do that is crock pot. I can make really yummy, delicious crockpot stuff that is fast and easy and is good for that day and then, or like that night, right?

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And then I can make extra and pair it with some kind of vegetable or something super easy. So I am going to be sharing this really delicious recipe of chicken on my Instagram very, very soon in a reel. It's got like a nice smokey flavor and you guys, it was so easy, it's so, so easy and the flavor profile is incredible and so long story short, head over and follow me on Instagram and you guys can check out that Real at Thriving Thyroid and I will see you guys on the next. Before you go, since we're talking about nutrition and the importance of diet, I wanted to share with you guys that in the show notes, you guys can head over and purchase the Hypothyroidism recipe book. It includes over 12 recipes for smoothies as one book, and then I have breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, and sweet treats, all of them hypothyroid friendly. So if you are looking at giving your body the nutrition that you need to help fill in those nutritional gaps using food and nutrition, head over, check out that ebook and start incorporating those recipes because they are delicious and you will love them just the way that I love them and my kids love them. I'll see you on the next.

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