144 // You MUST Get Enough Protein If You Want Your Cells To Have Adequate Thyroid Hormones

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

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DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION
(00:00):

<Affirmative>, welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, my friends. I, today's episode I'm pretty excited to talk about because this is probably one of the number one issues that I see happening with my clients inside the handsome method and inside other programs that I work with. So, and I'm gonna say this as gently <laugh> as possible. So a couple things, couple big things. So one of the, the, like when I was studying htma, which is the Hair Trace Mineral Analysis, which is the testing that we do for all of our clients inside the Hansen Method, and some people choose to purchase it separately. The, when I was studying that and learning that when it comes to the sodium to potass or the calcium to potassium ratio, which is correlates with your thyroid and how active or underactive it is, like the first thing that they tell us and the first thing that they hound into us is make sure this client is eating enough calories. And I know this is true for me, <laugh>. As a busy mom of four kids, I prioritize feeding them over myself. And I don't necessarily want to eat the goldfish and the macaroni and cheese and chicken nuggets. Like I want nutrient dense food, and yet I don't wanna make two different meals in order for that to happen. Now, that's not the case. I know for our family we do much, much better than, than a lot of people out there in terms of like what my kids eat. My kids are really not picky eaters.

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I mean, obviously like many kids, they have things that they will eat and things they won't eat and whatever. But that being said, I don't always feel like eating what they're eating. And because of that, I either don't eat or I just grab whatever I can put in my hand. And a lot of times it's fast, easy, convenient type foods, like maybe a Lara Bar. Well, a Lara Bar is a great alternative. It's high in carbohydrates, right? There's not a lot of protein. And so I want to focus today's episode on protein and how it plays a role in women's hormones overall. So first and foremost, protein is the most underact under eaten <laugh>.

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I was gonna say underactive, and I mean it impacts your thyroid, but under eaten macronutrients. So macronutrients means protein, carbs and fats. Those are big macronutrients for women. And yet it has a critical role in balancing out our, our hormones. So first we need to understand what that protein is. So protein is made up of amino am amino acids, <laugh>, which are the building blocks of our body. Every cell in the body contains protein and it is essential for growth, repair, and maintenance of our tissues and organs. One hormone that plays a significant role in our body is leptin. And leptin is produced by the fat cells and signals to our brain that we have had enough to eat. So if leptin levels are low, we may feel hungry, even if we've just eaten. How many of you guys have said things like, I eat and then I just need something sweet to like finish the meal, da da da.

(04:17):

<Laugh>. Leptin can be playing a role in that, and adequate leptin levels can help manage or reduce appetite and lead to weight loss. Another hormone that protein interacts with or helps produce is ghrelin. So I think of ghrelin as that, like growling sensation because leptin is produced in the stomach and it signals to the brain when it's time to eat. So eating adequate pro protein can help reduce those leptin levels and decrease hunger inside the body. So those two hormones are at the base of the pyramid when it comes to managing hormone levels because hormones build on top of each other at the base level, leptin and grillin. So I know that my clients are on a path towards restoring hormone function when they come to a coaching call and they say, I'm feeling hungry for the first time in years, right? Because so many of you women moms, you wake up, you go grab a <laugh>, you go grab a coffee, and you get the kids ready and you prioritize their needs above your own. So in addition to that,

(05:57):

How do we know if we're eating enough protein? Because protein is, well, okay, before, before we go into how much protein you should be eating, let's talk about signs or symptoms of low protein consumption inside the body. So number one, edema. So swelling low muscle tone. So if you're exercising and you can't if you can't build muscle, then that's gonna be an issue. The next one is gonna be mood changes. If you're feeling anxious or depressed or whatever, like we're gonna have issues with that. If you're having issues with sleep, dry, flaky, skin protein cravings where you're like, I just need a hamburger <laugh> belly fat cravings or oh my goodness, protein cravings, sugar cravings, if you're holding onto belly fat, if you've been told you have a fatty liver, or if you're feeling really fatigued. So those types of things are playing that critical role in our hormones as well as balancing other hormone, other sex hormones inside the body like estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone.

(07:16):

And these hormones, protein helps to regulate those hormones. And those hormones are leading to menstrual cycles. Fertility, libido, and eating enough of those building blocks of proteins can help restore hormone function overall. So I hope you guys are starting to see how critical this is. So lastly, I want to talk about how protein, not, lastly, I shouldn't say that next <laugh>. Next I wanna talk about how the thyroid gland, how protein impacts the thyroid gland. So ts h and T4 regulate our metabolism and T4 is converted into t3. And T3 is that active thyroid hormone that requires adequate protein intake. So in order for us to feel the effects of thyroid hormone, they must be able to enter the cells of the body. And these hormones are the messengers that send, that are carried to the cells or the receptors by the protein. So basically it's like catching a taxi from point A to point B. The taxi a k a, the protein carries the thyroid hormone to the cells of the body. It carries ts h t four T3 to all of the cells in the body to the final destination. So adequate thyroid hormone absorption is only made possible through taxis, through protein being available in the body. So with that being said, we need <laugh>. So here's the, here's the question that we started to kind of begin to talk about earlier, is how much protein should I be eating?

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And when I say this number, everybody's gonna be different, okay? Please understand that everybody is genetically and metabolically different and some of these things may not be right for your body. Okay? This is general information <laugh>, okay? So first and foremost what I recommend is starting your morning off with a protein packed breakfast. This can be animal protein or plant-based protein. My, I had a client get on the coaching call yesterday and she was like, the protein powders that I have gotten are not working great with my stomach. And so she tells me about these pumpkin seeds and hemp seeds and all these things that she's doing, adding to her smoothies to get the protein. And so I asked her, you know, well, how much protein are you getting cuz she's also having sleep issues and whatever. And so we talked about this information and I told her I like between 25 and 30 grams of protein for breakfast.

(10:38):

And she was like, oh yeah, I'm not getting that <laugh>. She's like, I'm probably getting about 10 to 15 grams of protein for breakfast. And I'm like, Hey, no problem. We can make some small adjustments. So for your guys', FYI, for your information, th about three tablespoons of hemp hearts and pumpkin seeds, raw pumpkin seeds is equal to about 10 grams of protein. So I was like, if you did, you know, three of each, you're already up to 20 grams of protein. And then for the other stuff you can do hemp parts or whatever, that can be super beneficial. You could eat it with a hard boiled egg, you could eat it with a couple eggs, <laugh> which eggs while yes, they are protein packed. They each egg only, I think it's like eight grams of protein. So again, if you're only eating one or two eggs because you're scared of the calories, we ha we really have to look at how our relationship is with food.

(11:54):

And this is something that I work on with a lot of my clients because most of them are perimenopause and postmenopausal. And so in their mind they, they have a lot of the diet culture and the fear around the, a fear around these things. So yay, <laugh>. But anyways, so basically what I recommend is two to three eggs for breakfast, and then you can always pair it with other things that are gonna help get you a little bit more protein. So throughout the day I tell people about a hundred to 120 grams of protein. And again, both animal and plant-based protein is totally fine to make that happen. So if you're eating, let's say 30 grams of protein for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, that's like 90 grams of protein. So you're almost, you're almost there. So then with your snacks, if you make your snacks 15 to 20 grams of like two snacks a day, 15 to 20 grams, let's say 15 grams of protein, and I think that's like two Turkey slices each time essentially, right?

(13:20):

Like <laugh>, there's a lot of ways to get protein. So please don't just like pinhole yourself because variety is gonna be the most important thing. I'm just trying to give you guys some quick and easy points of information to get you there. So if you did 30 grams for breakfast, 30 grams for lunch, 30 grams for dinner, and then 15 grams of protein for like an AM snack and a PM snack, you have hit 20 grams of protein for the day. And that is going, like I said earlier, that protein is going to get the thyroid hormones to the cells of the body when we wake up and we drink coffee or when you wake up and you know, don't eat until two or three in the afternoon because that's the first time you get hungry or the first time that you think about food or the first available moment in your day that you can get food, think about what it that is doing to your thyroid hormones.

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If we are wanting to improve our health and prioritize our health and then prioritize the way that our body feels and the way that we feel in our skin, we may have to rearrange our day slightly in order to make the efforts necessary to see change. So with that being said, I want to invite you guys to a couple of different things. So the first one you guys know, I put out a ton of free information on the podcast trying to help you guys get the information that you need in order to move forward to get you the education in order to make changes and understand why you need to do something. Because when we, for at least for me, when I understand why <laugh>, sometimes it makes it a lot easier for me to be like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm going to prioritize the protein.

(15:38):

Fruits, veggies, those are honestly pretty easy for me because I can grab an apple and run out the door. If you guys follow me on Instagram <laugh>, you've probably seen some pictures of me like eating an apple on the go or you know, whatever. And so I don't have an issue with that. My issue lies in the protein, getting enough protein, especially while pregnant and especially while nursing when we are pregnant and or nursing, we use up more protein in general. So my protein, the my need, my personal need right now because I'm still nursing for protein, is greater than 120, but if I can get close to 120, great, right <laugh> and this is gonna do a couple things. It's gonna speed up my metabolism, it's gonna give the baby the nutrients. And the cool thing about protein you guys is it does have a lot of essential nutrients that we need to manufacture thyroid hormones.

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For example, B vitamins, meats, red meats are very, very high. And B, protein that's gonna, or B protein, B vitamins to give you the nutrients that you need in order to have energy. So once again, if you're lacking energy, let's get you some energy by giving you some, some protein. That protein is also responsible for helping to the, the protein tryptophan and B6 work together, which both of them are found in animal protein that is going to help you with your serotonin production. So you're gonna feel happier, your mood's gonna be better, and that is gonna also impact the way that you sleep, how you're feeling if you're feeling rested and, and energized the next day. So if you want to change your life, <laugh>, prioritize a protein. Okay, sorry, I kind of went off on a little tangent. Hopefully I said that with enough love for you guys, <laugh> today.

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And all right, so the last thing that I want to tell you is, first and foremost, I offer this free podcast. Hopefully you guys got some value out of it. The second thing is you guys can go download the best foods for thyroid in the show notes. There is a guide in there that you can go check out and download the best foods for your thyroid and I'll send it over to you. The next thing, if you're ready to get a little bit more help and get a little bit more more insight, more coaching, more support, more direction, I am offering the thyroid fed meal plan and recipe database and inside that database, it's honestly like you guys, this is something that <laugh> I've wanted to do for a long time. And I did a rendition before I did the Hanson method because I just really believe in the power of food and nutrition for families, for the clients that I work with.

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Like nutrition should be the foundation. And most of us, like I mentioned earlier, don't have a great relationship with food. And I had a client her name is Nikki, she got on the coaching call earlier this week and she's like, I got my personalized protocol, I got my plan. And she's like, there were foods on there that I didn't know I could eat. And I was like, are you okay with that <laugh>? And she was like, no, I am so thrilled that these things are on here because I've taken them out because so many thyroid coaches say don't eat this and don't eat that and take this out and limit this. And she's like, I get to eat all of these foods that I'm excited to eat. And I was like, okay, great. <Laugh>, you know, sometimes I never know how a client is going to react.

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And she's like, I was showing my husband and we're both so excited and all these foods look really, really great and you know, all like there was so much excitement in there. With that being said, so the thyroid Fed Hub is done for you. Meal plans, there's several different programs in there. Everything from anti-inflammatory to antihistamine May 1st we're gonna be releasing our summer slim down program. It's a three week program which will three weeks of nutrition plans done for you meal plans I should say. And I always recommend my clients do two weeks. So they would do like week A, B, C and then cycle back through and do a b ABC again. Because one that helps us to identify any food sensitivities and things like that. But then you have, you have six weeks of a plan and super beneficial.

(21:02):

Okay? So that's number one. There's done for you meal plans every single month. We are adding new meal plans to this area, 21 days real quick or yeah, real quick, real, real quick, real fast, <laugh>, real fast and easy, something like that. And, and there's tons of you guys. So every month you're getting new done for your meal plans. Number two, you're gonna get access to a library of new recipes to keep you excited. These foods are gonna be in season, so that's gonna help with your grocery budget. It's gonna give you a variety, a wide variety of nutrients, all of that as well as private access to our Facebook group. And you're gonna get grocery lists for those done for meal plans. And then we have once a month a question then answer about food and nutrition. We're gonna all meet together on Zoom, we're gonna have a really great conversation <laugh>, we're gonna be engaging with you to help you find a very clear path in whatever your goals are.

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And the cool thing about this you guys, is the community that I have is absolutely incredible. So all of that, I'm gonna tell you the price now cause I don't think I did earlier. <Laugh> is $8, $8 a month. It's 7 99. You can cancel at any time effortlessly. Like just send us a an email and we will get that canceled for you. And you're gonna get two bonuses if you enroll in the month of, are we in April still? I sure hope so. <Laugh> in the month of April you're gonna get two bonuses. The first bonus is worth $200. You will be getting a, a plan for hypothyroidism. So it's a 30 day plan for hypothyroidism or Hashimotos or hyperthyroid or grapes disease. So whatever diagnosis you have, we will give you a 30 day plan that is going to include nutrition, supplementation, and lifestyle things that is going to help propel you forward. That is a $200 value for you. In addition to that, you are going to get access to our journals through our app. Now the cool thing about that is when we come on the group coaching calls, if you want me to review your journals and give you personalized feedback for your nutrition, I will do that. I will review <laugh> your information on the calls, and I will give you very specific and targeted things to help get you started. All right, you guys, I'll see you on the next.

 

143// Overcoming the Struggles of Autoimmunity so that you can Quit Quitting with Amanda Hinman

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Applied Functional Medicine Certified and Integrative Nutrition Health Coach, Amanda Hinman used to feel exhausted and overwhelmed while struggling with an auto-immune condition. Life circumstances shaped her mission, to empower women to be in the driver’s seat of their health when her family was faced with multiple health crises and was able to overcome them against professional medical expectations.

 

Amanda specializes in helping successful women between the ages of 40-60 who are struggling with hormone imbalance and unwanted symptoms to regain peak performance and gain 3 hours of energy every day so they can maximize their impact on their careers and family. Amanda founded a functional medicine company called Hinman Holistic Health and together she and her team have helped 100’s of women reclaim their health from the terrors of Hashimoto’s, hypothyroidism, insulin resistance, anxiety, PCOS, pituitary tumors, and more.

 

If you liked today's episode with Amanda Hinman you can check her out.

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

CONTACT LINKS

 

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

Audio transcription

(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast cast.

(01:23):

All right, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. I have Amanda Hinman with me on the call today. I, Amanda, welcome to the call.

(01:34):

Thank you, Shannon. I'm excited to be here with you and, and to get to share with your community.

(01:39):

Yeah, absolutely. So before we dive into all of the things, let's give the listeners just a little bit of a background as to who you are and what you do.

(01:50):

My pleasure. Well, first, thanks for having me. This is, this is a always fun conversation, and just who the heck, who the heck am I and why am I talking about hormones and thyroid health? I literally feel so deeply passionate about helping women to feel amazing, to absolutely be at the best version, the fullest version of themselves, because I know what it's like to not be there. <Laugh>. you know, I'm a mom of four, an entrepreneur and work with many high-achieving women who want to be able to have a full life, means they know that they're having impact and, you know, work that they're passionate about, that they love, that they enjoy and they can earn a great living at. They have kids and family that they're supporting, and spouses and, and all of the things, right? So it can definitely be very overwhelming, and that was a place I was in many years ago.

(02:45):

At age 33, I was diagnosed with an autoimmune called Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Probably many of your, your community members are familiar with that dynamic. It, it's really where your, your thyroid is inflamed and the body is sending off the alarm signals of the something's outta whack here. Something's outta whack. We need to create a change. And at that time, I was candidly Shannon, I was furious. I was like in total denial with this diagnoses because I self-identified as somebody who was very healthy. I had been in the sports performance world for many years. I was a group fitness instructor. Did you know, athletic coaching and performance and personal training for division one college athletes, a few professional athletes, and many just high achieving adults. And I ate salads and I worked out, and I was like, I want the world. Am I having this quote unquote, lifelong diagnosis?

(03:44):

I was told that, you know, it's just, you'll have this for a life and you'll have to be on medication and so on and so forth. So that was really a, a shake up in my experience and my identity of where I, where I was at that time. And then I went about the, the work of working with an integrative practitioner and going through the process of learning, which could be exciting. But at the same time, candidly, I got really, really angry and resentful shortly thereafter because I remember going in and having thousands of dollars of tests run and being a given like a 15 supplements to start taking and eliminate all of these different foods. And it was candidly, it was massively overwhelming, and I gave it my best shot and dove into action to start to make these things happen. And I didn't see much change.

(04:32):

My antibody numbers were still off the charts, my energy levels were depleted, my hair was falling out, and I was like, what the heck is going on? So I was really like disenfranchised with the idea of even holistic and integrative medicine at one point. And then fast forward 20 months after that, my daughter, my, I have four daughters. My oldest daughter at that time was eight years old, and she had always been an anxious, kind of highly sensitive kid. And her anxiety peaked so extreme. She got to a point of where she was having between 10 to 15 seizures in a day. And Shannon, when I tell you, your world as a parent gets turned upside down when something like that is happening with your child, it, I mean, that's an understatement because it was just like, I, I didn't know if she was gonna make it day to day.

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You know, she would wake up typically when, when our cortisol, you know, morning cortisol levels spike, it's a change in her ho hormonal level. Usually within the first 10 minutes of her waking up, she would go into a seizure and then it would just randomly happen. And any time, and throughout the day, there was one time I pulled her up from the bottom of my parents' pool because I had turned around to help my two year old, and she had, oh my gosh, dropped to the bottom of the pool. So like that put things in a whole nother level of urgency. Right? That's

(05:51):

So scary. Like I can't even Yeah, imagine

(05:55):

Yeah. That fear,

(05:59):

Oh, that makes me sick

(06:00):

To even think about, you know, as a mom, a four, right? You know, like your world is radically transformed when something that powerful happens. And so that was truly, I mean, I would never wish that upon anyone. And yet I can look back and say that that was, I feel like divine intervention, God's guidance to incentivize me to go on this journey of learning. Because we were working with the best pediatric neurologist in an amazing institution hospital in Chicago, and they're fantastic. And they were doing everything that they had within their training and their capability to support her, giving her four different benzodiazepine medications. She was taking 12 pills a day as an eight-year-old. We were told that she would likely be on medication for life, wouldn't be able to drive a car because of the medication and so on and so forth. And, and I asked like, what is causing this?

(06:55):

And she didn't have a tumor. There was no, there was no physiological reason in her brain. You know, they did all the scans and all the ekg, all the stuff. There was no reason to make correlation. We were told that sometimes these things are just genetic and some people's bodies are more predisposed to that type of neurotransmitter balance and that hormonal balance. And that never settled with me. I was like, there has to be an explanation. There has to be something that makes sense of this, right? Yep. So that's when I went back to get essentially like a master's level of training in functional medicine science, which is really a, an individual customized root cause approach to looking at interconnected systems in the body. And I'm sure you're familiar with this as well as Shannon. And that really opened up so many new opportunities for me to understand how critical our hormones and our balance with our neurotransmitters key nutrients having like our, our body is nutrient driven, right?

(07:58):

It's like if you don't put gas in the car, it's not gonna be able to work effectively. So I had no idea that our family had volunteer led by me being healthy, had kind of voluntarily chosen to eat, not strictly a hundred percent, but I would say a 95% vegetarian diet for about five years preceding these events. And now I've since learned that for many people that it can be successful. I'm not saying it's, it's black and white, but it can be successful to be vegan or vegetarian in some, in some sort of scenarios. But especially when the body needs key amino acid acids that can c set us up for imbalance. And that was absolutely happening in my diagnosis and in my dau daughter's situation, we just didn't have the fuel to properly detoxify certain hormones in my level, in my body. It was excess estrogen hormones that were blocking proper thyroid function.

(08:52):

In her, in her scenario was excess adrenaline, neph, epinephrine. She didn't have the, the raw materials to be able to detoxify and rid her body that, so it was just continuously cycling hyperactivity in the brain, neurological stimulation, which led to seizures, right? So anyway, it was a whole journey to unpack this and understand how to rebuild at a cellular level and transform her health. And the cool thing is, in a relatively short period of time, I mean in eight months, she went from being on all of these pills a day to zero. I was able to wean off of my medication. My husband had also struggled with like lifelong allergies. He had the worst allergies. We'd go up to my parents' lake house and he'd always break out and be sneezing and whatever. And he used to, as a kid, have to take allergy shots once a week.

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Well, once his body was in balance, right? And his immune system was calmed down because of the changes that we were implementing, that wasn't a concern anymore either. So like our whole family actually ended up in a much better scenario after going through that really challenging like period of time. And that was, that was like the galvanizing experience that, you know, I couldn't help but share this with more women. I'm like, we have to, you have to understand that there's amazing potential for your body to really feel amazing when you have kind of the game plan of what makes sense and what it needs.

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Yeah, a hundred percent. And you know, it's interesting that you bring up like veganism and vegetarian and things like that because there was a period of time where I feel this was, oh my gosh, I'm trying to remember. I, it was before I was pregnant with my third, so maybe like eight years ago, seven, eight years ago, I was still learning about nutrition and learning about health and stuff. And I remember like researching and for whatever reason, I got on this whole kick on like vegetarian and vegan and how, you know, vegetables and fruits are so good for your body. And I was like, so I, anyways, I'll keep this really short. I tried to go like vegan, vegetarian and I felt like on day three my body just started to kind of shut down. And I was like, I don't understand, like everybody's talking about how good this is for you and all of these different things.

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And then that kind of opened up like my horizon of like, okay, what like metabolic typing and what does my body need for fuel versus your body and mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. And like you said, everybody's body is different and I don't think I was getting the key nutrients that I needed when I was eating that weight. And so I don't, and and maybe you disagree, but I, the way that I work with my clients is not everybody follows this exact plan because mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, everybody's body is so different mm-hmm. <Affirmative> in terms of what it needs and how much it needs in order to get back in balance.

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Absolutely. Yeah. We do micronutrient testing so we can see where your levels are and, and customize. And I think it's twofold, right? It's one thing about knowing what nutrients your body's gonna thrive on. And also candidly, Shannon, it's like, what is the, I, I could tell you, I can give you a meal plan that would be quote unquote look amazing on paper, but if you're not able to consistently implement that meal plan, it's as valuable as the paper that it's written on, right? Yeah. It's like what is going to actually allow you to eat and consume those foods on a consistent ongoing basis. So it's always a blend. It's always a mix. And this is why we collaborate our team of, of health consultants. We collaborate with our clients individually because it's a matter of, okay, yeah, maybe I can tell you it would be ideal to have, you know, seven servings of vegetables in a day and, you know, salmon and, you know, whatever for snacks, you know, some cashews and some mixed nuts for snacks. Cuz that would be optimal if you're coming from a place where you don't even sit down to eat dinner and it's usually on the go in between kids' activities. Like how likely is it gonna be that you're gonna be able to make that hu 300 or 180 degrees swap and do that sustainably? We have to, we have to kind of put together a progression that's going to move you in the direction of healing.

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Totally. Yeah. I like, when I first started my business, I would have my clients come in and I'm like, okay, you need to do this, this, this, and this. And I'm like, okay, people are not having success. You know, like, because they're all starting at different places. I have one client currently who has celiac. She hasn't eaten gluten or touched gluten in like 15 years, you know? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, if I, I'm gonna coach her very different than someone who else who's grabbing fast food you know, three times a day. Like their, their level of what they're eating is so different. And that is one of the things that I think most people don't realize is they're like, well, just tell me what to do. Okay? I can tell you what to do, but how long are you gonna be able to do that and sustain that? So I love that. Yeah. I wanna kind of transition, I think this is like a good segue into just talking about how do we make changes? How do we

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Yeah.

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Stop trying. I I think you said what is the key to quit quitting

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<Laugh> quit quitting. Right? Because we can have the best of intentions and then we just give up because it's too hard. And you know, I've, I've done so much work and world class psychological tools to create what is it that creates new behaviors? It's really behavior change that we're talking about, right? Because we can have all of the brain candy in the world, all the knowledge about theoretically what would be good to do, but that's a very different story than what we can consistently execute on and take action on. And, and part of it is we have, we all have patterns. Human beings are, are driven by our daily habitual patterns more so than anything. In fact, we have over 80,000 thoughts in a day. And usually 90% of those are the same things we've been thinking, thinking the day before. So in order to create change, there's this, this dynamic, one of my mentors and coaches that I learned from Sarah Canal, she is the founder of thought Leader Academy.

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But she talks about, she, you know, we always think about, I want to have this thing like, so if my goal is to have, you know, three extra hours of energy in a day, I think about, okay, what do I need to do to have the energy, right? We always, we, we tend to think, to wanna go into the doing mode. So it's what do I need to do to have what I want? What is my goal? And she reverse engineered that formula to have us look at who do I need to be and then usually her do, what do I need to do? And then I will have the thing. But there's another step that I think is really critical to add into that formula. It's be, release, do and have. And what I mean by release is we all have societal programming. I don't know if you're familiar with Dr.

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Joe Dispenza's work, but I've done a lot of his work and he talks about like we, we, we take in our lessons and our perceptions and our expectations and our beliefs about the way that the world works based on what we witnessed and what we experienced, especially at a young age, from the ages of like between zero and seven. Our brainwave state is in that kind of hypnotic state where we're simply observing and taking in and cataloging and, and like integrating our perception and our understanding of the way the world works for most of us in society. We just have a lack of consciousness around time. And yeah, when you constantly feel like you don't have time, cuz usually, right, usually when it's a what, what what gets in the way of making a positive health change. It's our belief that we don't have time or the other most, second most common one is I don't have the money, the resources time or resources.

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So that belief in lack is deeply, deeply ingrained from a very young age that we had just programmed. So when we talk about being who is, who is that version of you that has that extra energy? What is she feeling? Who is she being? What does she embody most often? Does she embody a sense of overwhelm, a sense of frustration or guilt or blame? No. Her emotional set pattern is one of fulfillment, one of contentment, one of maybe even eagerness or enthusiasm, right? So who is she being? You have to identify like, who do I need to be or who do I get to be when I'm in that future goal place that I want to end up? So the first is emotional identify your emotional setpoint of who are you being once you have reached your health goals. The next is release because our old programming patterns are gonna get in the way.

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So we need to do some work. And this is why in our program we include some subconscious work on hypnosis, if that resonates with you on removing and identifying those limiting beliefs that we have around our time, our resources, and our ability to implement change. But if we don't look at the stories that we have around that, it's not gonna change. You can't just change the 5% of your consciousness and expect it to last. So we have to release and uncover those limiting beliefs. Then we get to take the action now it's like, okay, let's put that game plan into action after we've identified who we get to be in that future state. We've released some of those old patterns that are actually in hindering us. Then we take the action, now you're gonna get the result you want. So you have to switch that order instead of just trying to jump and do the thing without doing those first two steps, it's not gonna last.

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Yeah. Yeah. I i, have you heard of acting as if

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Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>.

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So I, that's one thing that I talk about all the time, and I think that this kind of relates to that is like, okay, envision the person you want to be mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, okay, what do they do? What do they have? But I, you also, I love the component that you talked about is releasing release.

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That's the key. Yep.

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It is. Because if you are stuck in the same pattern, in the same cycle, then you will never have, you will never become that person that you want to do because you currently have actions, attributes, patterns, you know, whatever it is mm-hmm. <Affirmative> that is keeping you from the thing that you want, right?

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Yeah. A very, a very simple example, right? So oftentimes, and this is one that comes up all the time, all the time with women we work with, is, you know, I don't have time to do some of the meal planning or the preparation that would allow me to get these nutrients in, right? Once we identified what your body needs from a nutritional standpoint, how do I actually make that happen? So I don't have time, I don't have time, and I understand that, right? So let's look at who does that version of you that is optimally healthy and really just your body is amazing. You feel confident, you feel good, you feel calm. What does she feel about her meal planning? Well, maybe she feels confident, she feels capable, she feels in control. Empowered, right? Those are, that's the emotional set point. That's what she's being.

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So then I start to say like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, but nope, I'm not there. Like, that's just not a reality for me. So, okay, so what do we need to release? What are the thi what are the, and I always like this phrase, the story I'm telling myself is the story I'm telling myself is I don't have time. The story I'm telling myself is you know, I, my I work too, you know, my work is too long, and then I have to get the kids to these activities or so on and so forth. Well then you have to question the validity of that story, right? So what if there is a way, what else could be possible? What could be possible to say, you know what, I actually would rather have an extra three hours of extra focus, energy, clarity, and vitality where I'm present, where I can be making a difference than technically kind of going through the motions.

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I actually don't have time not to be at my best because everything takes longer when I'm not actually connected to the actions that I'm doing throughout my day. Right? Or even at a moth, another extreme. You know what the ultimate aversion of not having time is when you're incapacitated because of a health crisis like I was with my family, you don't have time for doing the things that you're normally doing if all of a sudden you're in the hospital. So it's like, do you really not have time or are you just reallocating your time differently instead of looking at the bigger picture? Right? So it's like, what? And, and it starts to, once you start to question some of the stories, now we can open up the opportunity to say like, okay, let me get resourceful. Like what else could be a pa? Maybe it's a matter of doing some proper meal planning with somebody else. Maybe it's a matter of having my kids help with a portion of it. Maybe it's a matter of, you know, I'm batch cook and I do it. Like all of a sudden I can get creative, I can get resourceful when I have a little bit of different angle that I'm looking at this. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, yeah. Totally. And one of the things, and I'm totally guilty of this, of saying I don't have time. You know, like people tell me that and I'm like, you have one kid, you're a stay-at-home mom. Like, I, I understand what that looks like because I was, I was there <laugh> mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. But I also understand having four kids and running a business, like my, my I don't have time now looks very different than it did 12 years ago, you know?

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Yeah.

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And one of the things that I've had to implement going to the meal planning is I recycle meal plans. Yes. So like, I've done the work, I've created it. Now can I put the in a binder and flip through and say, oh yeah, you know, this one looks really good. Okay, here's my grocery list. You know, and then I just check things off. Like, yes, it takes a little time to get started in that way, but at the same time, like that's work that I no longer has have to do in terms of things. So I I love that you talk about being creative because I had to find a solution for what was keeping me stuck. <Laugh>.

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Yeah.

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You know, in I don't have time and, you know, but my values of like eating home cooked foods, eating whole foods, you know, nourishing my family, like all of those things had to override and supersede the I don't have time

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Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. Yeah. And it's not, it's not easy, right? It's, and this is why I'm like, I'm always like, don't try and do it alone because it's a, it's, you need that reinforcement that support, that loving accountability that's going to, you know, be there when it sucks and when it's hard. And also Cheerly didn't give you some other ideas and best practices that it's worked for others. I don't know if you're familiar with vision Liani and Mindvalley, but I was actually doing a training. He had a, a guest expert near Yal who is a Stanford professor who studies time effectiveness. And he, after doing many years of study, what he found is that all behavior is driven by our desire to ease discomfort. And really when we tru when we struggle with managing our time, time is interesting cuz it different than wealth time is the one resource that every single human being has the same 24 hours in a day.

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Right. So that, that is the ultimate equilibrium. It's how we're utilizing that time that is so different. And he talks about time management is actually pain management because oftentimes what we are doing with our time is we are trying to escape discomfort. And yeah, when we get really honest, it's like looking and say like, okay, what am I doing a catalog? Like where is my time going? What, what is it that, it's that it's being like, where is my focus and attention being drawn? Sometimes it's more escape discomfort. And if we put it into proactive creative solutions, that feels tremendously different. It feels so much more empowering and better and it gives you vitality. It gives you that energy that cuz you're feeling like engaged in a process of positive influence.

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Totally. And you know, one of the things that, okay, so I, I six months ago or whatever, I hired someone to work for me and they came from an agency, so they basically trained the person they came to work for me or whatever. And one of the things that I absolutely loved is they trained that person to find problems and then come to me with three solutions. And so I, I have implemented that with my kids and I'm like, okay, that's the problem. What are you gonna do about it? Because that will take you to a whole different place in a different state when you have to be creative mm-hmm. <Affirmative> to, to get out of that pain and to get out of that discomfort. So totally. It, I mean, huge difference.

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I love that. Yeah.

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Yeah. So, cool. All right. Well, is there anything like, in wrapping up, is there anything that you feel like the listeners need to know or do or any of that?

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Yes. I mean, I'm definitely always a fan of knowing, kind of taking the time to do the reflection and knowing, having an awareness of where your body is at and where your health is at. I think that is one of the most important gifts that we can give ourself, is the gift of awareness for our health. And Shannon, you may have resources like this. I have just a very simple quick and easy hormone health assessment that identifies some key symptoms for our top six hormones when we're looking at thyroid, cortisol, insulin, estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. So if that's something that could be valuable, I'm happy to share that resource and you can put it in the show notes or something with your community. But it, it kind of gives us a framework of like, okay, your hormones are the messenger molecules in the body, quite honestly, and they're, they're gonna start to give you those niggling little signs early on by creating unwanted symptoms of like, Hey, I'm, I'm waving the red flag, pay attention here. This is, this is kind of going in a trajectory that's not useful or not beneficial.

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Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And I, I do have the link for that. So we will put that in the notes for people who feel like they, they wanna take that hormone assessment and figure out what's going on and, you know, start, start to be the person and release old habits. Yeah. And become <laugh>, you know? I love

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It, <laugh>. Yes, absolutely.

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Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts.

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We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast cast. All right, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast with your host Shannon Hansen. We are talking about the importance of food and nutrition when it comes to your health and your, your body and all of the things. Now, if you've been around for a while, some of this stuff might be a little bit more new to you, but I think it's really important that we discuss the importance of food because I believe that food is central to our health. Now, with that being said, like I grew up in a very, I would say at the time, a very health conscious home.

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My mom, I remember waking up every morning to her, like exercise bike <laugh>, and my parents did a lot of like fruits and veggies. My dad hunted. We were, we were very mindful of what we were eating. My dad did when he was diagnosed with high blood pressure and stuff, we cut out salt and, you know, <laugh>, I like, we did not, I didn't grow up on cereal. I didn't grow up on like boxed items either. We didn't do a lot of pre-made food. A lot of the food that I grew up with was pretty much homemade. Like it was like those Pillsbury canned biscuits and stuff. Like, we didn't have those <laugh>, okay? Like, I know that's probably a norm for a lot of people here in the us. Or canned frosting or some of those like pre-made easy foods that was just not in our home.

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And I remember also growing up, my friends would hear, like, come over to my house and they would say, oh my gosh, you have nothing to eat. And I'm like, oh, you know, like panic embarrassed, right? And <laugh>, my friends would say that. And then I'd go to my mom and I'm like, mom, we're hungry. We have nothing to eat or whatever. And my mom would whip up the most delicious things. And it very quickly got around to other kids. And so after school, they loved coming to my house because my mom would homemade, like make homemade donuts and she would homemade cookies and caramel popcorn and all the things. And even as an adult, one of my friends that I've had since fourth grade, she, she's like, I remember we would go to your house and you would have nothing to eat in the pantry and your mom would whip up the most delicious things.

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And she's like, I don't know how she did that. And that is definitely a trait that I have been blessed with. Well, I think, and especially after working with hundreds of clients, I realize what a, a rare gift that is, is to be able to look at just plain ingredients and be able to whip things up and make, make food out of them. Make a meal out of them. Not just food, but like make a well-balanced meal. And so growing up that way, and then coupled that with my, my beliefs about food and nutrition, like when I read through the scriptures and I have obviously formulated my own opinions and my own inspiration, my own revelation through what I read in the scripture is about him. So with that being said, and I will hound this until the day that I die, is every person is metabolically and genetically different.

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This is why I don't believe we've given, been given a diet plan that is everybody is successful if they eat such and such way. This is why like I put such a focus on teaching my clients about their metabolic typing and teaching them how to eat for their body specifically. And some of that comes through trial and error. Some of that can come through like testing, right? The H T M A gives us a very good idea of if you're a fast metabolizer, if you're a fast metabolizer, if you're a slow metabolizer, what those ratios and what those portions are. And I just have a client she started just recently and she's like, I'm, she went on. So she signed up and she was going on a month long cruise and to where did she go? I think she went to India and then came back.

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So what we did is we got her started, we got her enrolled, but we just made sure that like the timing of it, like we added a month cuz she really wasn't doing anything in the middle of the ocean <laugh>. And so she just came back, she's just getting into the swinging of things and she's like, okay, I'm trying to eat healthy. I'm trying to figure out what my portion sizes should look like and all of these different things and we're waiting for her test results, right? And she's like, what should, what should my meals look like? And so I was like, I can't tell you specifically at this point, but I can give you a pretty good idea about 80% of my clients. And this isn't about weighing and measuring and portioning out food. I say that all the time. It's not about <laugh> that it's not about macro counting or whatever.

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It's about when you're putting food on your plate. And I personally recommend using like a smaller plate, not like a full size dinner plate, but one of those like, kind of like a side salad plate using that as like your, your main dish. And the reason for that is because we want to fill in all of those blank spaces. And so the smaller the plate, we can still pile up our food, but still get very close to proper portion sizes on those smaller plates. Okay? so just picture that smaller kind of dinner plate. We want 30 to 40% of to, of that to be protein, preferably animal protein, chicken, fish, beef lamb, whatever, ounce out there, venison, whatever, whatever the animal protein is. Then we want about 35 to 40, I'm gonna say 35% carbohydrates. Those carbohydrates should be focused on fruits and veggies.

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If it's a meal, preferably veggies, I like to tell my clients about three pieces of fruit per day and use that for snacks. Okay? And then about 25% of your meal should be fats. So good healthy fats oils nuts, seeds, those types of things for, for that. So I wanted to kind of dive into the importance of nutrition when it comes to your hormones and your body and the function and everything. So number one, let's start by discussing the roles of hormones inside the body. So hormones are chemical messengers that are produced by the glands in the endocrine system. So the endocrine system is your, your thyroid, your adrenal glands, your your testes or your ovaries for women that are regulating your hormones. And all of those chemical hormones are communicating with each other. And this plays a role in our metabolism, our growth development brain function, all of that.

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So however, hormonal imbalances can occur due to a ton of different reasons, right? Stress, poor nutrition, environmental things. One of the easiest ways that we have to support our hormones is through proper nutrition. So once again, so if you guys paid attention, <laugh>, usually a lot of the women that I work with, they have their cycle. They menstruate around the full moon, which was last week. So right before you start your cycle, most women will experience a peak and estrogen, which gives you this burst of energy the day before you start your cycle. And you will be like, I need to clean, I need to organize, I need to get all these things done. And this is like your body's way of quote unquote nesting. You have like one day of nesting before you start to menstruate. And then when you menstruate your body, your energy goes a little bit further down.

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So you may notice more being more tired or fatigued or things like that. So a lot of my women have also been experiencing that. Like, oh man, I'm tired, I'm fatigued. I don't, you know, I just, I'm not feeling motivated. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like why is this a bad thing? This is actually a good thing. This means that your hormones are communicating with each other, and it will take, when we start cleaning up our diet, when we start, you know, taking care of all the toxins and things that are impacting our hormones, it's gonna take three to six cycles before we really see big changes because of how the hormones work, right? We have to have that menstruation for things to kind of be cleared up. So when we are also looking at that hormones are synthesized from nutrition or the nutrients found in our diet.

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So for example, insulin is synthesized from amino acids and zinc. Well, the thyroid hormones are synthesized from iodine and tyrosine. So tyrosine is a protein and most of the women that I work with are not getting enough protein and or iodine <laugh>, right? Like I here in the states, I know a lot of women don't, don't eat foods that are rich in iodine unless it's like the iodized salt, which is not my favorite. So I don't recommend that <laugh>. But things like they're not eating kelp. We're not eating strawberries. We're not eating seaweed and things like that, that are, that are rich in that iodine. And so one of the things that I do with my clients after we do testing and we kind of validate and confirm that they are missing the iodine, is we get them on a protocol for about three ish months.

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Sometimes a little bit shorter, and then we add in iodine supporting foods. I don't recommend like getting a supplement of iodine. It doesn't work really great. It's just not beneficial. So depending on how comfortable they are incorporating iodine rich foods on a regular basis we take that into consideration. And in a lot of cases we do provide like a kelp supple supplement or recommend a kelp supple kelp supplement <laugh> to get that iodine to get the thyroid working better in addition to increasing that protein. So your, your thyroid hormones have the nutrition that it needs. So while eating this balanced diet that is rich in whole foods and a diet that can provide the body with the required nutrients for the body, we also recommend getting in those, those vital vitamins, B vitamins. So B vitamins are also required for the synthesis of adrenal hormones as well as zinc.

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So if we are low in B vitamins and zinc, we are gonna experience hormonal imbalances as well like low progesterone, excess estrogen. So we're gonna have the breast tenderness, the moodiness, the cramping, the heavy bleeding, all of those. And really consuming a, a diet that is rich in those pH estrogens, phyto estrogens, <laugh> can in the whole food form, can help balance out and get rid of that extra estrogen for women especially who are menopausal or perimenopausal. So if you are noticing that you're carrying the weight around those hips and thighs, eating foods rich in those, those qual estrogens can be super important. So let's kind of go over and talk about the role of insulin and, and having insulin sensitivity. So when we are looking to work with the body, we have to work with a body in the right order.

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Okay? I think that that's super important for us to understand is we can't just jump steps in <laugh> in how we work with the body. And this is the biggest mistake that I see with my clients is they want to just, just fix my thyroid. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's, we have to look at your bowel movements. We have to look at other things happening because if you, if you are having issues, excuse me guys, you guys can hear the baby. If you're having issues with your bowel movements, you could not be absorbing the nutrients that you need. If you are rapid dumping, if you're having constipation, food could be sitting there too long and if the food is sitting there too long in the situation of constipation, then we end up with sibo, then we end up with parasites.

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Like it becomes this breeding ground for bacteria and nasty, nasty things that we don't want, <laugh> we don't want in the digestive system. So insulin is a hormone that regulates our blood sugar levels inside the body. And insulin resistance is a condition where the body becomes less sensitive to insulin and is a common hormonal imbalance that leads to those type two diabetes and metabolic dis disorders. And consuming a diet that is low in processed foods and rich in whole foods can help regulate the, these insulin levels so that you are building once again that strong foundation for all of your hormones. So what I like to tell clients at the very base of the pyramid is leptin and grillin. So those are your hunger and fullness hormones, right? Tell tells you, Hey, I'm hungry, Hey, I'm full. And then from there we have the insulin and the cortisol.

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So this is why eating a diet that is rich in fiber can help. So fiber, this is why like fruits, veggies, grains are, as long as they're not processed are much better for you because the fiber that is found in those whole foods slows down the absorption of sugar into the bloodstream and therefore doesn't spike blood sugar levels. So in addition to that, like if you are have been diagnosed pre-diabetic or insulin resistant or type two diabetes or something along those lines, I would do some research and consume foods that is rich in magnesium and chromium. Those are gonna be your dark leafy greens, your nuts and seeds and all of those will improve insulin sensitivity and prevent the insulin resistance. So once again, you are building that strong foundation for your hormones to build on top of. All right, the next one, the role of nutrition in the thyroid.

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So the reason we are all here today is to talk about the thyroid, right? So the thyroid gland produces hormones that regulate your metabolism. And an underactive thyroid gland, as we all know, should be maybe we don't know. <Laugh> is a hypothyroidism. So again, those classic thyroid symptoms, weight gain, fatigue, depression, and again, those iodine, iodine is that essential nutrient for thyroid production. So T4 is essentially four iodine molecules put together. T3 is three iodine molecules put together. And so we need to be making sure that we are eating a diet that is rich in that iodine to help support that, as well as other thyroid supporting nutrients like selenium that can be found in Brazil nets or tuna can also help with this. So big thing that I really wanted to share with you guys is that food and nutrition plays such a huge role in our body.

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And one of my most favorite things about working with clients is them coming to me and saying, I didn't realize how these foods were affecting me. I didn't realize that skipping breakfast and drink, just drinking coffee was hurting me as much as it was. And so I literally heard that yesterday on the coaching call and she's been eating a protein breakfast and then having her coffee right after, and you wanna know wet, she's like, I'm losing weight, I have energy. My sex drive is coming back. And she's only been doing this for like a week and a half. You guys, like, it doesn't take very long for the body to respond. It may not go completely back to normal or get completely where you want to be overnight, but finding those small wins along the way is really, really important. So with that being said, we are gonna pick up next week and talk more about the importance of your thyroid and food and the nutrients. And I will see you guys on the next.

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Before you go, I want to make an offer to you guys. Now, there's no pressure here, but if you are like me and you just wanna get to the root of the issue and you want help and you want guidance, and you just wanna know what to do, and you are an action taker and you are highly ambitious, we have several spots that are open for the Hanson method. Our schedule fills up very quickly. So if you are interested in getting in, filling out an application and joining us, please take the time to visit the show notes and schedule your thyroid breakthrough call. We will be talking to you about what is holding you back, where do you wanna go, how do you wanna feel, and then give you our personal and professional recommendations on the next step for you so that you can get outta this thyroid chaos. Once and for all.

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We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 



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Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 



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(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast cast. All right, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

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Oh, you guys, I wanna know, I'm curious if you guys have ever had days where you just feel like everything you do is not good enough. I am definitely feeling that way. <Laugh> today, just with kids and soccer practice, we are not doing soccer with softball practice, <laugh> you know, life in general, like I started to take kids to school and this kid is throwing up and that kid is throwing up, and then I have to readjust my whole day. And in order to accommodate that, it is just not good enough for anybody. And at least that's the way that it feels. And I just want to validate you guys and let you know that if that is you, <laugh>, you're doing enough, you are enough, you have enough, you are, you are enough. And it's okay to have bad days. It's okay to feel awful, right?

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It's okay. It's okay. And it's normal to have those. And one of my mistakes for a long period of time was feeling like always thinking that it's not okay to feel uncomfortable. It's not okay to have a bad day. And that I would try to suppress that and push that down and like try to not feel the, feel the feelings, right? And that's not healthy either. It's more healthy and it shows maturity, it shows growth, it shows all of those wonderful attributes that we love about people. When you, when I when people can recognize, hey, this is okay to not feel good. It's okay to be sad, it's okay to be depressed. It's okay to have an off day. It's okay to be whatever, right? Fill, fill in the blank. What is not okay is one, staying stuck in that, right? Staying stuck in the I'm worthless, I'm a piece of garbage.

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You know, that's not okay. And it's also not okay to retaliate and to take things out on other people. So we always can choose how we react, how we respond to situations, and that that is the sign and the key of true help and true wellbeing is when we can start to share that level of maturity and growth. So if you're having a bad day, if you've had a bad day before, please know that it is normal and it is okay and you are seen and you are loved, and you are wonderful. And I appreciate you. And if today is a bad day, just know that you are enough and you're doing enough and that I see you. And let's dive into today's topic. So this one is a good one. So good. <Laugh>, I'm pretty excited to talk about this. And this is copper toxicity.

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So I wanted to, as you guys know, if you've listened, I love sharing real life stories so that you can see tangibly what to do or other people that may be experiencing these things. So copper toxicity is one of those really interesting things where when we test for it, it's probably not gonna come up on your test or it's not gonna show that it's high. It's gonna show that it's normal and everything's fine. Well, that's because it's sneaky and it's hidden often times. And so what I tell my clients, especially when we're doing htma, is you have symptoms of copper toxicity. However, when we look at this test, we're not gonna look at it and pay attention to it yet. We need to uncover that first layer or that second layer of hell so that we can really determine what is starting to go on.

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And it may not even show up until the third or the fourth test or whatever. Okay? So copper toxicity occurs when there is an excess of copper inside the body. And this can lead to a variety of health issues, guys. So I'm gonna share with you about nine symptoms. So if you wanna get out a pen and paper, or if you're driving in the car <laugh>, just listen. Okay? Maybe re-listen to this and, and you can write some of these things down. So the first one is digestive issues. This is your like unexplained nausea or vomiting or abdominal pain or diarrhea. The second one is fatigue, toxicity, copper toxicity can leave, lead to fatigue and weakness inside the body as well as mood disorders. So number three is mood disorders, anxiety, depression, and irritability, headaches, copper toxicity can lead to headaches and migraines. If you are in a situation where you're like, my head hurts all the time, or I, it gets worse around my menstrual cycle, you really want to pay attention to copper <laugh>, right?

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The next thing is skin issues. And again, going back to my own personal story, I was having rashes and acne and other scare skin irritations. Well, not so much rashes, I shouldn't say that I was having a lot of acne and it wasn't clearing up, it wasn't going away. Regardless of the medication or regardless of the creams and the face wash regimen and seeing dermatologists and getting facials and things, my acne wasn't clearing up. And this should have been a really big sign to other professionals that something deeper was happening because acne is an external sign of an internal imbalance. Okay? And I, and the other interesting thing in this was when I saw a homeopathic doctor, and he or she at the time that was a, a female she wasn't a homeopathic, she was a naturopathic doctor. She recommended I take a lot of these supplements and guess what?

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My acne started to clear up well when I went off of them, cuz I only took them for maybe two months, maybe three months. It wasn't enough time to heal my body. Okay? So anyways, let's keep going. <Laugh> neurological issues. So numbness and tingling or even tremors. So if you notice that you're shaky or you notice like numbness and tingling, a a lot of my clients experiences at nighttime while they're sleeping, they'll wake up with numbness or tingling in their hands or feet. The next one is hormonal imbalances. So this coppers toxicity can lead or can affect hormone balancing inside the of the body leading to menstrual cycle issues. So fibroids P C O S I feel like I'm missing endometriosis and infertility. And then the last two, which I previously mentioned is liver damage. Because copper is going to live in the liver, <laugh>, it's going to impact the liver and lead to liver problems, which also oftentimes down regulates our body's ability to break down healthy fats.

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And so then we have gallbladders removed and we start having floating stool. We have sticky poo where we wipe and wipe and wipe and, and you're still not clean. Sorry, tm, I, I know <laugh>. And then number four is the kidney damage. So again, this is also going to impact kidneys. The kidney and the livers are the body. They're cleansing the blood, they're cleansing the body from other toxins. And so if both of these organs aren't working optimally, then guess what happens? Well, then we start to get into a whole other host of issues. So you're probably asking yourself now, okay, well where am I getting exposed to copper in this way? Because clearly I want it out of my body. So first and foremost, copper can leech into your water from pipes and plumbing. So if you are in an older home, definitely maybe do some investigation.

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I, for me personally, I'd probably ask my husband and have him do the investigation because I feel like it's just in his wheelhouse and not mine, <laugh>. So even at work, if you're spending a lot of time at work and you're drinking a lot of like water from the faucet, definitely pay attention to that. Maybe want to switch over to filtered water. I drink ro water and yeah. So that might be something to consider. Number two, copper can be found in certain foods including shellfish, liver, and chocolate. So if you're eating excess amounts of any of those, just be mindful, not take them out, okay? Don't, it doesn't mean that you have to remove them. What it does mean is just be mindful about the consumption, how much you're eating. Number three is supplementation. You guys would not believe how many of my clients take supplements that have copper in them.

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We need copper. Copper is super, super important for fertility. So if you're struggling with infertility, you definitely want to be mindful of that. But a lot of my clients are taking, taking supplements that have copper in them, and also certain medications, light birth control, I didn't write that one down, but medications and supplements can be high in, in copper. The last one is going to be pesticides, fungicides and other chemicals. So anything that is essentially conventionally grown <laugh> could be exposed to to that. All right, so let's talk about how your copper toxicity can be impacting your mood. And this is something, so on Mondays we have a business meeting and we are all just talking together, right? We're going over certain things business related. And one of the ladies on their, one of my employees, my contractors, she brought up how she's like, everybody seems to be struggling with mood lately.

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And I was like, yes, yes, they do. <Laugh>. So we're gonna talk high level here because we are gonna have some other podcast episodes that are, that are going to be addressing depression and anxiety specifically, but copper impacts our mood in many different ways. So copper is involved in the production of neurotransmitters. These are chemicals that are transmitted to the brain. So copper is involved in the production of the enzymes of dopamine, which converts. So dopamine is then converted into neuro epinephrine. And neuro epinephrine is that neurotransmitter that plays a role in regulating your stress response. So have you ever met someone, something happens and it's like they just explode, right? Like, I can think of one situation where everything seemed to be fine, somebody said something, I couldn't even tell you what they said. And then the next thing that I know, someone else in the room went to turn off the light, but didn't just like push the, the like button to turn it off.

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They slammed their fist into the wall, obviously breaking the light switch, putting the hole in the wall, and everybody in the room is like, whoa, what just happened? <Laugh>, right? So those types of responses, that's a little dramatic, but those types of responses when we're under stress can be caused by tox to copper toxicity, right? So some of this, it's in your control, but some of it is out of your control. Like I know for me, there's been times where I look back and I'm like, why did I react that way? Like that my response, that stress response was not fitting to the situation. So if you can look back and you're experiencing a lot of these other symptoms of copper toxicity, definitely take that into consideration when you're considering a plan to restore thyroid function or to restore body function to help you feel better.

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So however, when copper levels become too high in the body, this, like I said, leads to mood and emotional issues, problems this can interfere with those neurotransmitters that lead to anxiety, depression, and irritability. So this can also affect other minerals inside the body, including zinc and magnesium, which are also really important at regulating mood. Now, when copper levels are too high, this is gonna drive zinc levels down, leading to those mood issues leading to low stomach acid, leading to a lower stress response inside the body and interfering with magnesium absorption, which is going to affect metabolism, blood sugar, balance, all kinds of things. Okay? So it's really important when we're looking at these types of things, again, to look at stress factors, look at nutrition, look at habits and make sure that you guys are having a comprehensive plan. Okay?

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So the next thing that I wanted to talk about is how copper toxicity or copper is impacting your sex hormones. So as mentioned before, copper is required for the production of several hormones inside the body, including estrogen and progesterone as well as thyroid, da, da da, da, thyroid, right? However, copper levels become imbalances can lead to all of these other issues. So copper toxicity can lead to an excess of estrogen inside the body. So this is going to cause menstrual issues as mentioned, heavy cycles, painful periods breast tenderness, irregular periods where we're skipping stuff. We're, we're early, we're late. My client today on our coaching call was like, it was 80 days between cycles. You guys, she's in her early twenties. That should not be happening <laugh> at all. And that irregularity can I, she's not at the place of trying for any babies, but later down the road that could interfere with ovulation and reduced fertility.

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And I'm sorry, but like I know that's a very real issue that's happening in the world today. No woman, no woman should have to experience that, okay? And I just want to tell you if that is happening to you or if you have struggled with that, I love you and I want you to know that your pain is very real and it's very justified and it's okay. It's okay to be sad and it's okay to hurt for that. Okay? The next thing is mood disorders. So high estrogen is going to cause that anxiety, that depression, the weight around the hips and thighs and the belly and, and all of those wonderful things. And also around our menstrual cycle. So here, here's something really interesting. We are approaching the full moon <laugh> and a couple things that most people don't know about their menstrual cycle.

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So the day before they start their cycle, we have this peak in estrogen. That peak in estrogen will cause this burst of energy causing us to do go into like a quote unquote nesting phase. This nesting phase is going to cause you to probably want to clean or organize or like get things in order. And then usually the next day you will start your cycle. And that is very normal. It's like our body saying, Hey, get ready because we need to have some downtime. Well, that, you know, just pay attention to that. Let, let me just say that. Pay attention to that. And then that drop in other hormones after, after that peak in your estrogen, all of your other hormones drop, right? Your estrogen drops, your progesterone drops, everything drops. So you could be experiencing headaches and migraines and painful periods and all of these other horrible symptoms that have come along with copper toxicity.

(20:35):

So this leads me into skin issues. So like we mentioned before, the the acne the rashes and last not least, thyroid. So copper toxicity is going to slow down thyroid function and in many, many different ways cause hypothyroidism. So the first way it's going to influence or impact our bodies metabolism of iodine. So obviously iodine is essential for the thyroid. So T4 HA is four molecular model, four molecular, oh my goodness, it's like four iodines put together, okay? <Laugh> that create t4. Same thing with t3. It is three iodine molecular models, that's not the right word. Dang, four iodine things put together, three iodine things put together. And this is going to impact. So let me back up. Iodine is that key mineral required for the production of thyroid hormones. And, and copper is going to interfere with the uptake of iodine by the thyroid gland.

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The next way that it impacts our thyroid is it inhibits thyroid hormone synthesis. So copper is going to interfere with the production of thyroid hormones by inhibiting the actions of enzymes that are involved in the hormone synthesis or the hormone production and conversion. Next so number three, part of this of how it impacts our thyroid is it competes with the zinc is copper and zinc are both those trace minerals that play a role in the body and they compete for each other and the absorption of one another. So if copper is too high, it's gonna drive zinc down and again, slow down and impact the bo the thyroids function. Okay? Last but not least is oxidative stress. Copper toxicity can lead to oxidative stress inside the body. And that oxid oxidative stress is a condition in which there is an excess of free radicals in the body.

(23:20):

So this free radical can cause damage to the thyroid cells and interfere with thyroid function as a whole. So clearly <laugh>, you guys can see that this is all playing a huge role in the body, and we need to take copper very various seriously. So the first thing that I want to tell you is, number one, there's hope. Okay? Number two, the best way to go about this is to get proper testing done, to figure out what is happening. Like I mentioned before, I tell all of my clients, you want to have at least two test results to figure out what is, what is happening inside the body. Because on that first test, things may not, may not show up the way that you want them to. Okay? The reason we do H T M A testing is because it is accumulative of three months.

(24:27):

So whereas most blood work is just what's happening at that day and time then, and then, right? Like that day and time, there's so much that can impact the way that our hormones are reacting and responding at that time. So this H T M A is going to be accumulative, like I said, of the last three months of your, of your life. And so one day, one bad day isn't going to change the results, okay? So I want to share with you guys five key nutrients that can help support copper toxicity. Now, again, please know <laugh> that I would not, I do not recommend going and just taking these supplements, okay? Always, always, always, we want to be making sure that you are getting these things from the foods that you are eating first and foremost, okay? That is going to be number one because we cannot out supplement imbalances inside the body.

(25:38):

Okay? So the first one is manganese. Manganese can help regulate copper metabolism and improves the zinc absorption inside the body. So this can also help decrease that copper absorption in the gut. So if you are eating a lot of copper rich foods or taking copper supplements, that manganese helps to kind of balance that out. Number two is iron. Iron is very important for copper metabolism and low iron levels or anemia, borderline anemia can lead to copper accumulation. However, I iron supplements should be done, obviously under the guidance of healthcare professionals. And in my opinion, I actually don't recommend iron supplements like at all. <Laugh>, because we, we have to understand the body is that ecosystem and iron is absorbed in the stomach. So if you're eating iron rich foods, there should be no reason why your body isn't getting the iron that it needs from food.

(26:51):

Okay? So number three is that vitamin C. So vitamin C helps with the decrease in copper absorption in the gut and increases zinc absorption. So again, balancing out that zinc to copper ratio. And this can help protect the body from the damaging effects of co excess copper inside the body. Number four vitamin b6. So I like B6 in the form of a P five P. This is also really, really important. It's a co-factor for those neurotransmitters helping to balance out mood and all of those wonderful things. So B6 is important for that copper metabolism and helps to lev reduce copper inside the body. So it's, I don't wanna say it's a detoxification, but it's kind of like a, it's a way for our body to say, oh, we have too much of this, we're gonna get rid of it. And then the last one of course is zinc.

(27:52):

We wanna be, also, this is another reason why we wanna be doing HTM e testing, is we want to see where zinc is. Is it being absorbed inside the body? Is it being utilized inside the the body or are you, A lot of my clients come in and they're like, I'm taking zinc because, you know, it helps support your immune system. Well, their zinc is really high, meaning their body's not absorbing it, like it's just going into the body and it's just sitting there. So we, we definitely want to play, we definitely want to take that into consideration when we're making adjustments. So this one, like I said, is important for immune function. So a lot of my clients take this. The next one is, it helps with wound healing and other bodily functions. So zinc can help balance out that zinc to copper ratio inside the body, balancing out hormones and so on and so forth.

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So with anything you guys, make sure that any adjustments or changes that you are making are under the guidance of your healthcare professional. As well as get an H T M A, you guys <laugh> work with someone who is qualified at putting together a plan and a roadmap per you. Because like so many of my clients, they're just stuck on this hamster wheel. They're following that definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So a comprehensive approach to balancing out your minerals, your dietary changes, lifestyle modifications, all of this is going to be vital for optimal health. And so come work with me, <laugh> I, you know, find someone, work with me, get some testing done get things figured out and let's get you feeling better. Summer is around the corner, and I know that's something that I am thinking about.

(29:53):

What am I gonna do during summer? How am I gonna take care of my kids? How are, you know, what activities are we going to do? If you guys know me in real life, you know that my summers are <laugh> really important to me. I plan my summers very strategically with my kids. So Monday we do whatever activity. Tuesday, we do this Wednesday we do this Thursday, we do this Friday we do this. I'm very, I like routine especially running a business and having kids. I like to have a plan. <Laugh> and my husband and I are already in conversations, you know, what is our summer budget? What does that look like? What does it look like having a almost 18 month old baby? You know, how do we accommodate her needs and her nap schedule and the kids and his work and my work and, and all of the different needs in that.

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And what I don't want to have happen for you guys is having low energy, being stuck with low anxiety, depression, fatigue, irregular cycles, snappiness, all of those things are going to impact our relationships with our kids and the people around us, whether we want them to or not. When you're snappy and irritable, guess what? Your kids are probably going to avoid you. Same thing with your husband. So instead, let's see how we can flip that around and get ahead of some of these things to get you feeling better, to get you energized, to get you to a place where you feel really good. My summers do slow down. I do not take on as many clients. So if you are wanting to do this, if you are ready to get answers, if you're ready to see, hey, is this my issue? Schedule a complimentary call with myself or a team member and we can discuss what that looks like for you, what that roadmap looks like for you.

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And if you can't do the full program, we have several other options to work with myself, work with a team member not a team member. <Laugh>, you'll have a call with a team member. You guys work with me you know, work with me or, we have a lot of different, a lot of different options when in ways that you can work with us, okay? Various levels of pricing, various levels of, of support and things like that. So the best way to determine if you are a good fit to work with us, schedule a complimentary call, chat with me, say, Hey, I'm ready to join, or, or, Hey, I need more time. Or, you know, do we have something that can fit into this price range? We will do our best to accommodate you where you're at and also give you a little bit of boost. All right, you guys, thank you so much for being here. I really truly appreciate you. I will see you on the next

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140// What Thyroid Medication Is Right For You Synthetic or Natural

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.



Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.



Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 



We got you! 



We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 



Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.



 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  



Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 



We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 



Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 



Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   



But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 



CONTACT LINKS



DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES



PAID RESOURCES



AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen



P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

 




AUDIO TRANSCRIPT

00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts.

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We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast cast. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, my friends. We're gonna be talking about thyroid medication and doing some comparing and contrast the contrasting when it comes to medication because one of the questions that I get asked all the time is, am I taking the right medication? Should I be taking medication? If, if not, what should I be taking and what should I be doing? First and foremost, you guys, I am not your doctor. I'm not your practitioner. I have not looked over any blood work, any medical history, all of those things. So this is just general information that I want to share with you guys to give you some of my insight and some of my experiences and also things that you can find out online <laugh>.

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So there are two types of thyroid medications for hypothyroidism. That is synthetic T4 syn, oh my goodness, I cannot talk today. <Laugh>, synthetic t3, and then an all natural and generic type stuff. So let's kind of break down what is considered a synthetic form of t4. So that's gonna be Synthroid, which is the name brand, and then Levothyroxin is the generic brand. Levo Thyroid is brand name Levo. I am gonna mess this up, <laugh>, I'm gonna spell it out for you cuz I'm not exactly sure how to say it. It's L E V O X Y L. Okay, so that is also a brand name, Ty Tyrosint, only in the gel caps with no fillers. Tyrosint Soul has only three ingredients. And Uni Thyroid, which is also a brand name synthetic T3, is Lyo Thine. So that is a generic Sy Cito mill that is a brand name.

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And Tyrosint, which is also a brand name. This is, it's very uncommon for people to get a T3 medication because most doctors are not testing more than ts h and t4. So it's just very common to not even see clients taking any synthetic form or any form of T3 unless they're using a more natural form like armor or NP thyroid. So let's break down synthetic thyroid medication. So again, Synthroid is the brand name and Levothyroxin is a generic version of Synthroid. They are not always interchangeable, okay? So it's not like going to the grocery store and you buy this brand name and this off brand, and it's the exact same. That's not always the way that it is when it comes to medications. So Synthroid and Levothyroxin are synthetic forms of t4 and the differences between synthetic or the differences between Synthroid and Levothyroxin can vary in the amount of t4, which is the active ingredient.

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So it may say that you're getting 75 grams, but maybe you're not getting exactly 75 grams of medication or T4 across the board. Okay? So there can be some adjustments. This is why you may respond better to one of them. Some some of my clients say I do better on Synthroid or I do better on Levothyroxin because the, the variation in in how they compose <laugh>, that's probably not the right word. How they formulate them is going to be a little bit different. Leo Thine is a synthetic form of t3. Leo Thine has, is not, does not have a lot of side effects. Okay? and one of the side effects can be hair loss or weight loss. So really when, if you are taking that, pay attention to how it's affecting your weight, how it's affecting your hair, and maybe see if it is a good choice or a bad choice for you.

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There can also be some differences in active and inactive ingredients when it comes to synthetic medications. So both Levothyroxin and Synthroid are preferred medication by most doctors. So that's typically what I see with the clients that I work with. It's, it's usually Levo that I'm gonna be honest, it's usually levothyroxin both of these and all synthetic forms of thyroid medication and other medications as well. Typically you can find fillers. So this is gonna be inclusive of gluten fillers, lactose dyes and preservatives. So depending on how your body reacts and responds to gluten or dairy or dyes or preservatives or anything like that, we have to be super, super mindful that it may be coming in your medication. Most doctors will say, Hey, you need to go gluten free, but they're not realizing that they're giving you gluten to start your day off. So if gluten, because I've got infections, got sensitivities, if you are, if gluten is inflammatory or reactive to the body, then of course you're not gonna feel good.

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Of course, things aren't gonna be super great. Of course you're gonna like have a grumpy, yucky stomach that's super inflamed and you may not be doing really well, especially if you have autoimmune conditions like celiac. So there are some things that I wanted to share with you guys in terms of fillers for levothyroxin specifically, and that's gonna be modified wheat starch. So you can see this on like your, the papers that you should get with the medication. You should be able to go in there and, and look at this yourself as well. And I'm gonna just highlight some of, some of the big ones. So again, it's gonna be the wheat starch. So you'll see that is gluten, lactose, monohydrate, which is lactose <laugh> dyes, convection or sugar, which contains corn starch. So again, if you are reacting to corn or if you are like me, I have, I did have some high levels of corn mold because corn can be boldy <laugh>.

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And so I was reacting to things happening in my environment, which for me, I live in Arizona and my house is kind of a, a rural house and I am surrounded by cornfields on all four sides of me. And so there was a period of time where I was having high levels of mold and I'm like, what the crap, where is this coming from? And so, I mean, I wasn't taking thyroid medication, but that's something that if you are struggling with those, you need to be obviously aware of of and mindful that that can happen as well. There is b h a I'm not gonna, maybe I'll link this up in the show notes for you guys and then you can do some of your own research on all of these different things cuz there's like colloidal dioxide that can be very problematic for people.

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Calcium phosphate di diba, I think is how you say that. That's also very problematic. So I'll put it in the show notes for you guys to look at this list of things that I have that can be problematic for people and you can just see if any of that resonates with you and talk to your doctor about that as well. So then there is the natural form of thyroid medication. So that's gonna be your arm or thyroid. This is a brand name for an all natural form of thyroid hormone. So arm or thyroid is derived from dried thyroid glands from pigs. So it's gonna be a little bit more natural. And it contains a combination of two thyroid hormones. So that's T3 and t4. It's inconsistent in the dosage since multiple animals, thyroid glands are being used and we don't know, we don't know the health of those animals.

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So again, it's one of those things where if you're needing to regulate the dosage, a synthetic form is gonna be something that you can track specifically on, like, this is the dosage, this is what I need. So on a so forth, most doctors do view thyroid medication as a life sentence. They don't see or talk about a way for you to get off medication. So you're just basically being told this is the rest of your life. The FDA has not approved this, it was just grandfathered in when they started using medication. So again, this is not something that is continually being researched <laugh> because the fda, I, I don't know, I I'm not exactly sure that whole process side effects occur more frequently in natural thyroid medication. So again, something to be really mindful of. So natural and synthetic forms can both cause side effects.

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You guys any medication is gonna have <laugh> its own list of side effects and both may not relieve your, your thyroid symptoms. This is true for many of the clients and most of the people on the email list and in Facebook groups. And unfortunately, if it did, then we wouldn't have these issues, right? Like <laugh>, I wouldn't be in business. And you know, honestly, that would be super great if you guys were able to all have things that worked for you and you were able to have the energy and the stamina and be able to lose weight and, and normal things would work for your body. So let's transition really quickly and talk about supplementation for thyroid. So what I see very commonly happen is other practitioners some of my clients even come in that they're taking this supplement that is for thyroid.

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Whether it was something they Google founded, Googled founded they found on Google in like a Google a Google search, or maybe they follow another practitioner online, and this practitioner online says, buy this supplement. I've formulated it just for your thyroid and it's going to make all of your issues go away. This is, it's not my favorite. And let me explain why I, and this is I'll share my own personal story. So a while ago, a couple years ago, I was trying to fix my thyroid. All my doctors told me everything was normal, blah, blah, blah. We know the drill, okay? So I went online and I was like, okay, I know that there are nutrients and minerals that help with thyroid hormones, whether, so that means creating, converting and absorbing thyroid hormones, right? Like, there are those three components that we need in order to make our thyroid work properly.

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So we need to create, convert, and absorb. So I went online, I found this thyroid supplement, and I was like, oh, sweet. Like this is gonna be the answer to what I have going on, like it's gonna give me the nutrients that I need, blah, blah, blah. I get it. And I finally, like, I looked at the minerals and the nutrients inside of it and I was like, this is fantastic. This is, you know, all of these things help with blah, blah, blah function. And I get it in my home and I look at it, you guys, and guess what happened? There were fillers of rice and wheat. And I was like, you have to be kidding me. Like, I just spent all of this money on something for my thyroid, and yet it's still filled <laugh> with fillers. So anyways, super frustrating. So my recommendation for you guys in this journey is, number one, if you're taking thyroid medication and or taking supplementation, always, always, always look at the fillers and always look at their side effects and how they could be potentially affecting you.

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Several of my clients have come in to the program inside the handsome method worked with me. We look at their medication and they're like, I'm having such and such symptom. And I'm like, okay, so we, we go down this path and we start working on that symptom and I'm like, okay, they're, they're coming to me and they're like, Hey, nothing's working. I don't understand, blah, blah, blah, whatever. You know, like a little frustrated, right? They're, they're like, Hey, I'm paying you a lot of money and I'm not seeing results. I'm not seeing them as quickly as I was wanting or hoping or whatever. And I'm like, okay, I totally get it. Well, when we go back and we start looking at, okay, what could potentially be causing some of this disruption and this chaos and whatever, you guys, most of the time it's the medications that they're taking.


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I had a client, she came in, she was taking 28 medications, 28 you guys, and on 23 different supplementations right away, obviously we cut the medication. I didn't cut the medication, I can't do that. We had her go and talk to her doctor about some of the medications that we noticed could be counteracting each other. And then also took her off, basically off of all of the supplements and just put her on digestive enzymes and probiotics. Well, from there, within 30 days she went down to 16 medications with her doctor's help, okay? She didn't just cut them out, I didn't tell her to cut them out. We, you know, she went through the proper channels and we just moved her because we didn't have any testing or anything like that. We moved her to just digestive enzymes and probiotics. And let me tell you in that, in those 30 days, her energy levels doubled, okay?

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Her energy levels doubled and she started losing weight in addition to like, she did make some adjustments to what she was eating and things like that. But just those two things alone can make an huge impact. So not al more isn't always best. I know we hear that all the time, but sometimes less is more. Sometimes really being targeted in our efforts can be really concise. So obviously for her, it saved her a bunch of money on prescription drugs. It also saved her a bunch of money on supplementation. And after that point, like we just moved her after we got the te proper testing and stuff, we did add in a few extra supplements that did make a big change for her. And she continued to get better and better results and over time she was able to get off more and more medication.

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And then obviously all of her supplementation has been really, really targeted. So again, my recommendation for you guys is always talk to your doctor. Always keep your mind open as to what you think is working or not working, and really just be open, right? Like be open, talk to your doctors, ask them questions, do your own research. That's why I have this podcast. I've really tried to educate you guys on what you need to be doing and how to properly support your body and so that you see the most results because it is my belief that women are the pillars, right? When they, there's a saying when mom ain't happy, ain't nobody happy, <laugh>. And I truly believe that. Like I women, I believe that women are the pillars of our home, pillars of our family, pillars of our community. And so there is a lot of pressure that is put upon us.

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However we can handle that. We were made to withstand a lot of pressure, a lot of stress. But in addition to that, we have to take steps to take care of ourself and to nourish our body in the proper way we need to, this is kind of a side note, but it goes in with this. We need to schedule in times to rest and restore ourself. Because if we don't do that, then we will just eventually burn ourselves out and then we're no good and no use to anybody. So all you guys, I will see you on the next.

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Before you go, I want to make an offer to you guys. Now, there's no pressure here, but if you are like me and you just wanna get to the root of the issue and you want help and you want guidance, and you just wanna know what to do, and you are an action taker and you are highly ambitious, we have several spots that are open for the Hansen method. Our schedule fills up very quickly. So if you are interested in getting in, filling out an application and joining us, please take the time to visit the show notes and schedule your thyroid breakthrough call. We will be talking to you about what is holding you back, where do you wanna go, how do you wanna feel, and then give you our personal and professional recommendations on the next step for you so that you can get out of this thyroid chaos. Once and for all.

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(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner, and so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast Cast.

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Hey, you guys, welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast with your host Shannon Hansen. Myself, I wanted to come on and talk to you guys about metabolic typing and what it is, how it works, why it's important to know when it comes to your thyroid, and also what we typically see when it comes to thyroid, like a dysregulated thyroid, whether most, most of the women that I work with have homos or hypothyroidism. And so having this information is going to be very valuable for you guys in understanding why I make the recommendations that I make. Now, if you're new here, you know that I don't advocate for one specific type or methodology of eating. I don't say everybody needs to be paleo or everybody needs to be keto, or everybody needs to be fill in the blank, right? Because we are all genetically and metabolically different, and therefore our nutritional needs are going to be different than the next person.

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Even though we share the same maybe diagnosis as the next person, still does not mean that we're all the same. And this is the common practice when it comes to modern day medicine is, oh, you have this diagnosis. Here's, here's what we're gonna do. You have this, we're gonna, this is what we're gonna do. It's really, really important for us to understand that, that, and this is why a majority of the plans and the protocols out there, in my opinion, don't work because they don't take into consideration your metabolic and your genetic needs. Okay, so let's dive in to this. And really, when I see practitioners only recommending like one type of eating, this is a huge red flag for me. I'm like, <laugh>, put on the breaks, right? Pump those breaks because we're all different. So first and foremost, you need to understand one, we're all medical metabolically and genetically different.

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Number two, there are genetic components that pre-wire you two specific things. So we explain genetics in the sense of like a gun, right? Your genetics will load the gun, but it doesn't necessarily fire the bullet. Something else has to, has to pull the trigger. And one of everybody wants to know, well, what, what's the trigger? <Laugh>? I tell people it's not usually one thing. There's usually at least five components that is causing that trigger to be pulled, right? So that's gonna be stress, perception of stress, that's gonna be food, environmental things, poor sleep, poor exercise maybe I, I don't know, exposure to certain kinds of chemicals, heavy metals cleaning products. I mean, there's just a wide range of things that can, can trigger this. And usually you'll find that women, men too, I'm sure <laugh>, I typically work with women, but you women will start to notice things slowing down after a big traumatic event or experience.

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This is true for myself. When I, I look back, I can, I can see different emotional impacts that impacted me to where I'm at today. I like, one of the big things that I remember really slowing down my body seemed to be the death of my dad. It was very sudden, it was very quick. It was, I mean, literally within 30 days, exactly 30 days of his diagnosis of lung cancer was the day he passed away. And there were a lot of events surrounding that of other people just not being nice <laugh> and, and I was pregnant and lack of sleep and that, like, there were definitely big components that led up to that. And I, I feel like that's true for all of the women that I talked to right before coming to work with me or right before they get diagnosed. It's like, boom, we have this big thing.

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Okay? Next thing is, this is why I teach my clients about metabolic typing. So let's dive into metabolic typing. There are two main categories of metabolic typing. There's fast oxidizers and there's slow oxidizers inside of each of these metabolite, metabolize, <laugh> types. Inside of these metabolic types, there are subcategories. So we call them one, two, three, four, like a fast one, two, or three or four or a slow, 1, 2, 3 or four. The larger the number, the more outta balance you become. So the, the greater that teeter totter is tipped in one way or another way. So depending on these different metabolic types is going to dictate how our body is processing and breaking down the foods. So I wanna give you guys some examples. So for example, I fall into that fast oxidizer category. I, the way that my body breaks down nutrients. I need to be eating higher amounts of fat and protein with a lower amount of carbs, and I feel best when I eat for like breakfast steak, eggs or an omelet or something like that, because both of these have higher amounts of protein and higher amounts of fats in them, because this is, when I eat that way, I have lasting and more sustainable energy.

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I have a greater sense of wellbeing. The protein in there helps to give me that serotonin that I need so that my mood is better, my energy is better, the mental clarity is better, versus if I eat oatmeal for, for breakfast. Now, other people may feel great on oatmeal, but I tend to be, I wouldn't say like sluggish, but I just noticed that like I don't have as much energy as when I eat, you know, higher protein and I don't have the mental clarity that normally, like, I don't get super sleepy. I have some clients who are like, oh, I get so sleepy after, after I eat oatmeal. I don't have that issue. I just notice that my energy and my motivation and my mental clarity is much better when I have the higher amounts of protein. And I also find that I am, I will get more hungry if I'm just eating oatmeal.

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It's like within 20 minutes, 30 minutes, maybe an hour, like I'm looking for something snacky <laugh> to get on and, and stuff because my body is just burning through that much more quickly. So this is what metabolic typing does. All of the aboves are great, right? Eggs, omelet, oatmeal, steak and eggs, like all of those are great options. They're all whole foods, they're all nutrient dense. So I think we can all agree that those are pretty good options. However, for me, I, I do the best with steak and eggs. Like I've tested it, I've tried it out, like I know that that is the best for me. And metabolic typing is like, I, hopefully most of you guys are old enough <laugh> to remember these. But they have those, those radio stations where you're turning the dial, you know, one way to the left and it's like, oh, okay, I went too far and now it's getting fuzzy.

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And then, okay, I'm gonna turn it back. Oh, I went too far to the other side and I'm turning it back in. So what I recommend for my clients is to of course, journal their food, but also pay attention to other things. Are you hungry 20 minutes later are like, I notice when I <laugh>, when I eat oatmeal and I do eat oatmeal from time to time, but when I'm eating it, I'm also pairing it with healthy fats and I'm pairing it with extra protein because if I just eat oatmeal, that doesn't satiate my body. So what I do is like, I'll add in either protein powder or I'll eat some eggs on the side of it. I will add in hemp parts and, you know, just some healthy fats or I also don't like <laugh> my text, my, the texture of oatmeal just plain.

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I like to always add in like he parts or pumpkin seeds or walnuts or something like that. So I kind of doctor up my oatmeal in order to meet both of those needs. A higher amount of protein and a higher amount of of those healthy fats. And that is because I've trialed and errored it. <Laugh>, I mean, and I did have a starting off point, right? Like I've done the functional testing, it tells you in the htma what your metabolic type is. But even inside of that, I mean, it tells you your metabolic type and your subcategory. But because we're all genetically and metabolically different, I have to figure out what feels good in my body and how my body is going to respond. Now, one of the other things that help us to know, hey, I'm on the right track and things are going in a good positive direction, is those hunger and fullness hormones.

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So early on in the programs, my, my clients start to say things like, I'm finally feeling hungry. I'm finally feeling full. I finally wake up and I, I like, I feel that growling turning sensation in my stomach, and I know it's time for me to eat. When you start feeling hungry, when you start feeling full, when those, when those hormones slept in a grill and begin to balance out, then you also have a greater clue, Hey, I'm on the right track. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. This is really good for my body. And you will start feeling that once you start implementing these things. So with that being said, let's talk about, so we talked about my metabolic typing. I want to give you guys some, I guess more insight or some greater clues as to how to help you determine your metabolic typing and what, what you can begin to implement and, and things like that.

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So when it comes to that portion of things the best way to determine your metabolic typing is of course, functional testing. Otherwise, you're really a trial and erroring, you're, you're trying to like figure out what that is and you already may have a sense of like, I feel better when I eat eggs or then, you know, cereal, or I feel better when my afternoon snack is an apple and peanut butter. Like you might already kind of know some of this <laugh> because you live in your body and it's really important that we do pay attention to that. So functional testing is going to be the best way to determine if you can't afford functional testing, if you aren't working with me in my program or something, what I recommend is starting with, I'm gonna say like 90% of my clients are a slow oxidizer.

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So what that's going to look like when you're building your plate is about 30 to 40% of it should be protein for your body and about, so 30, yeah, 30 to 40%. So let's just say 40%. I find 40% is a little more accurate for my clients versus the 30% healthy fats should be about 25%. So healthy fats are gonna be your olives, your, I wanna say sardines, <laugh>, don't know why that's coming up. Your sardines it's also gonna be your olive oils, your coconut oil avocados, those nuts, seeds, those types of things fall into those healthy fat categories. So that should be about 25% of what you're eating. So if you're using olive oils or things when you're cooking, I would count that just as you're, you're fat if you're not, if you're eating, let's say a salad or something, then you want about 25% of that salad to be some source of healthy fat in there.

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And then third, hold on, let me think of <laugh>. The right ratio. 35% maybe that makes up a hundred percent, 35% should be fiber-based or carbohydrates. Now what I tell my clients is, yes, you can have grains you know, rice, oatmeal, things like that. I would focus on vegetables, focus on broccoli, focus on carrots, focus on cruciferous type things. And, and then go from there and see, see how you do. I have one client who pretty much cut out carbohydrates because she has celiac and that was the easiest way for her to, to get her body to respond is she just cut out pretty much all carbs, not intentionally. As she has added them back in, she is finding that her body feels better, she has more energy. She teaches three to four hours of yoga. You know, not every day, but a lot of days, especially when you own a yoga studio.

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And she's like, when I have those grains, I find that it stimulates my body in such a way that it causes her to be hungry in a good way. So she's no longer skipping meals, she's fueling her body with what she needs. So start with fruits and veggies and then kind of play around with it and see, do I do good with having rice? Do I do good with having oats? Do I do good? You know, this way, that way. What are those portion sizes that work really well for me? And then the last thing that I wanna talk about is how do you make the transition for your metabolic type? Now again, it, metabolic typing isn't about counting macros or weighing and measuring and portion out food. It's about looking at your plate and seeing, hey, this is, this looks like a good ratio <laugh> for me, right?

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This looks like what my body needs to be in, in balance. And so what I recommend starting with is an A mix. So this is a metabolic mix. This is what you'll do if you are within balance and your body's feeling really good. So you'll have about 50% of your plate as protein like animal protein, so chicken, beef, salmon, you know, fish, things like that. And then 50% of it will be vegetables. And then start playing with the ratios from there. Get that baseline to say, how did I feel when 50% was like vegetables and 50% was meat on my plate? And then try higher amounts of protein. Try lower amounts of protein, try higher amounts of vegetables, lower amounts of vegetables, and see how your body reacts or response. If you feel better, meaning more energy, more mental clarity one way or another, that's your sign that you're on the right path in terms of eating for your metabolic typing. So if you guys want more information on this, we have an upcoming masterclass at the end of March, March 25th. I will not be running another masterclass until probably May or June on this topic. So get registered. Even if you can't attend live, we will send you the replay for that and I will see you guys on the next.

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Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming master class on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake, and also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(19:47):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I'll see you on the next

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138//Understanding How To Work with Your Whacky Hormones Properly

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SHOW NOTES AT 

 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

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(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast Cast.

(01:23):

Hey, hey, hey, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. I love these podcasts. I love coming in and talking to you guys. I love sharing with you guys. I love hopefully inspiring you guys and all of those wonderful things. And you know, what I love about life is that it's always evolving. It's always progressing, right? And I, I think, I don't know if I necessarily be believe that saying, where it's like, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backward, <laugh>, I don't believe that. I think maybe not necessarily moving back because you carry with you your experiences and your opportunities and your knowledge and everything, but you can stay stagnant. You can stay still, and in a place where you're not moving forward. I think that is more possible than moving backward. My own sense, <laugh>, my own, not even 2 cents, my own sense <laugh> is that's what makes, makes it work in my brain.

(02:33):

Anyways, so we have a lot of exciting and wonderful things coming up inside the handsome method, inside the business, inside the program. I have just, I've been really trying to pay attention to what people are saying, and not just what they're saying, but like trying to read between the lines and create and develop things that are going to be sustainable, that are gonna be simple, that are what you need in order to move forward. So if you're listening to the podcast, <laugh>, I have maybe been dropping a few hands on other social media platforms, and I'm gonna tell you guys what it is. I am developing a meal plan and recipe hub, specific tooth thyroid and hormone balancing. And I could not be more excited about this. It's gonna be super affordable when it comes out, and there's going to be a very limited offer where, I don't know, I, I won't, I haven't figured out all the details, so I won't say anything yet in case it changes, but there's gonna be a really good starter bonus, fast action kind of deal.

(04:03):

So make sure to follow me in Facebook and on Instagram thriving Thyroid to, or subscribe to the email to be one of the first to get notified what that introductory price and offer is. I think I'm going to have to cap some of it because it may or may not be very personalized. Hint, hint, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, okay. <Laugh> to the people who take fast action. All right, so the real topic for today is the hormone pyramid. And this is something that freaking drives me nuts in a very loving way towards other practitioners. I'm not saying all practitioners do this. I'm not saying all doctors do this, but a lot of people do this, or they might do this <laugh> or they forget, right? And I will be the first one to admit that I am guilty of sometimes forgetting the order and the process and stuff.

(05:15):

And then I always have to go back and be like, no, no, no, this is why we do things this way. So imagine a pyramid, and in that pyramid there are four different blocks, okay? I think most of us grew up with the pyramid, the food pyramid, okay? Imagine something kind of like that. At the very base level, we have hormones, leptin, and grelin. So those are your hunger and fullness hormones. Up from there is your insulin and cortisol levels up from there are your sex hormones. And then at the very top is your thyroid hormones. So if you were having thyroid hormones, guess what's happening? All of those other hormones underneath are crap. Excuse my language, <laugh>, okay, that wasn't really bad, but it, I know when you come to me at that elementary basic level, you're like, I have hypothyroidism. I have Hashimotos.

(06:19):

I know that all of those other hormones are outta balance and outta whack. So let's dive into what each of these hormones do and how they feed into the other hormones, okay? And hopefully we'll share a few stories and all the good things. Okay? So first and foremost, leptin and grelin. So leptin is that like hunger, <laugh> excuse me, I said that backwards, grelin is the hunger hormone. This is that growling sensation that is that empty turning sensation that is signaling to your brain, Hey, it's time to eat something. It's time to fuel that body. Well, what happens when we don't listen to that hunger signal? Your body's growling, growling, growling. It's saying, Hey, Shannon, it's time to eat. And you're like, no, go away. I have too much to do. I got kids to run around. I got this, that, and the other thing.

(07:21):

You know, okay, I'll just drink some coffee. Or, oh, I'll just have some water. Well, eventually, what your body's gonna do is gonna say, oh, just kidding. Maybe we don't know if we're really hungry. And so it starts to turn off that hormone. And then the same thing happens to our brain with leptin, where it tells us like, Hey, I've reached the full capacity. I'm no longer hungry. Stop feeding me. Well, if you're eating too fast and eating too much constantly, right? Let's say like, it takes about 20 minutes from your stomach to send that signal to your brain to say, I'm full. So if you're eating in five minutes and you're trying to scarf everything down, and then you're like, Ooh, 20 minutes later, you're like, oh, yeah, I, I ate too much. If your are constantly doing that, then once again, your body, your brain is gonna say, Hey, maybe we don't know when we're full, and it's gonna start down regulating that hormone as well. So we don't feel hungry, <laugh>, we don't feel full. We just look at the clock and we're like, oh, yeah, I haven't eaten all day and it's three o'clock. Okay, let me eat something. Or we get to that, you know, 12 o'clock, one o'clock, and we're like, oh my gosh, I'm hungry. Your stomach is like so hungry that you, and you didn't prepare. So then you're just grabbing anything and everything in sight trying to eat that thing.

(08:59):

This is your body <laugh> trying to tell you, feed me, fuel me, right? Your body is like a premium car, right? It's like top of the line, rolls Royce, Lamborghini, like those cars need premium fuel. If you're giving that car like regular, I don't know, whatever, regular gas, you'll notice that that engine, that car is not performing at its premium. That's the same thing with us. If we are not feeding our body premium foods, whole foods, fruits, veggies, meats, and we're eating more regular food, right? Standard American diet, then what happens is our body starts to down regulate our engine stops running as smoothly, and we notice less energy. We notice more brain fog, we notice more puffiness. We notice those things, and you may not have the words because a lot of my clients will come in and say, I don't, I didn't realize how when I drank a soda, I was actually more tired that day.

(10:17):

Or when I drank a soda, I had more sugar cravings. Ta da da da <laugh>, right? Because this is your norm. This is your norm. Whatever that looks like for you, it is your norm. Okay, so let's move on to insulin and cortisol. Ooh, which one do we wanna start with? Let's start with insulin, because we started talking about blood sugar. So when we are not eating, we're skipping meals, we're not eating, we're eating fast, easy, convenient foods. We're eating standard American diet that's gonna mess up our blood sugar levels. We're gonna be craving more coffee, we're gonna be craving more soda or caffeine or crackers or bread or whatever, because our body still needs fuel. What is the fastest way to get fuel into the body? Carbohydrates, they're the fastest thing to be broken down and to give your body fuel because carbohydrates begin breaking down in your mouth, in your mouth, and then in your stomachs, they're like, they're broken down within like one to two hours, sometimes three, depending on what, what carbohydrate it is.

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And so right away, right away things are, your blood sugar is gonna go out of balance. You're gonna start noticing more cravings and sweets. I have a really a good friend that tells me she drinks a coke every morning for breakfast, and you know, she's on her own health journey or whatever. And it's so interesting to me how she doesn't necessar like, she's like, it just tastes good. It's just what I've done. It's just, it makes me feel good first thing in the morning. Well, later on in that day, she needs more and more caffeine and more and more of those like energy spikes to keep up with what she did first thing in the morning. So balancing blood sugar is critical <laugh>, it is a critical component to balancing your hormones overall. Kate, cortisol, let's talk cortisol because that is a huge buzzword right now.

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Everybody's like, my cortisol is high, my stress levels are high, that's why I have the belly fat and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I wanna say yes, but what's actually happening is the D H E A to cortisol ratio is outta balance. You guys, D H E A is very drastically underrated for a lot of reasons <laugh>, but when D H E A is low, that is really where we start putting on the belly fat. D H E A is like a, a growth hormone, a growth steroid for us, and not in the way of like making you bigger, but it helps with like neuroplasticity and hormone balancing. And it is another hormone that is helping to maintain homeostasis inside the body. So in my opinion, and there's research to back this up, when that ratio of D H E A and cortisol is off, that is when we actually start having more anxiety, more depression, more weight gain, more chronic stress, which leads us to all of these other issues that we've already mentioned, right?

(13:53):

The brain fog, the weight, the blood sugar dysregulation, the ignoring the hunger and fullness cues, okay? And so, yes, cortisol is important, but it's also an anti-inflammatory cortisol. So let me back up and I wanna share a quick story with you guys. So several years ago I was having a lot of fibromyalgia symptoms. I was in a lot of pain. A lot of times I didn't understand what was happening. It was like this deep muscle pain where I'd be standing at the kitchen sink doing dishes, and I'm leaning on the kitchen sink and I'm crying because my body hurts so bad. And my kids would be like, mommy, why are you crying? And I'm like, oh, nothing. I'm fine. Well, I didn't have, I mean, I, I did know that I was in pain, but I didn't understand why I was experiencing that.

(14:49):

And so when I went to finally go work with a doctor who knew what he was talking about, <laugh>, and he is the person that also mentored me for a while he shared with me that cortisol, like I was basically not producing cortisol. I had hit what they call like double burnout. And so my body was overproducing cortisol for so long, and then, then my body's like, I can't produce any cortisol. So I was underperforming, and that was leading me to the thyroid issues that I was, or not even the thyroid issues, but the muscle pain that I was having. And so one of the recommendations he had for me was to take all the stress off of my body. So that meant no more exercising that meant easy to digest foods for 30 days to help regulate my hormones. And it was life changing.

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Let me tell you, in those 30 days, it changed my whole body <laugh>. And my journey wasn't done at that point, but I started to feel better. I started to recognize who I was and how I felt and what I needed to do in order to climb out of that deep, dark, deep, dark, yucky hole that I was in, and really start to pay attention to what my body needed and how to support my body with good, wholesome, nourishing foods. And that's really where the handsome method and things came into play is because I was finally like, oh my gosh, people need to know what I know, what I was taught, what I experienced, how, how everything comes together. And so anyways, okay, so we talked about all of those before. Okay, so now we're onto sex hormones. So sex hormones include estrogen, pester, and testosterone.

(16:43):

Well, those hormones, those three hormones, a lot of the base hormones for those are D H E A, cortisol and insulin. If those things are outta balance within with not having the right ratio, then we have issues <laugh>, right? Then we have heavy periods, we have missed periods, we have breast tenderness, we have all skipped periods, right? You could be having like those amenorrhea type symptoms, which in all honesty, when it comes to thyroid, that's not something that I typically see is that what I typically see is more estrogen dominant. So estrogen is high, progesterone is low. So what people experience is like anemia, arthritis celiac disease, maybe hypertension, hyperactivity, so that like a D D A D H D where you're not able to just focus and get stuff done. We also see those emotional disturbances in terms of like feeling snappy and irritable.

(17:54):

We also see adrenal dysfunction in poor gut health, depression, fibroids, endometriosis, fatigue, PMs, infertility, insomnia, hair loss, those frontal headaches, all of those wonderful things that is a little more common with what I do with thyroid, not so much the the skipped periods. I do see irregular periods. A lot of my women have had ablations. This was really popular several years ago. I know a lot of medical doctors are now kind of shying away from ablations because now they're learning <laugh> that there are side effects to doing those. And so some people aren't performing them and they're not doing them the way that they, they used to. They're now wanting to just take, take the whole <laugh> do a hysterectomy, a partial hysterectomy, or a full hysterectomy. So anyways, that's, that's typically what we see, but again, those sex hormones are building on the other hormones, and then we finally get to thyroid hormones.

(19:04):

So by the time women reach me, they're in a full-blown thyroid chaos cascade effect where you're coming in and you're saying, Hey, I have these issues and that issue and da, da, da, da. But what's actually happening are these hidden stressors and hidden imbalances that if are left to be unresolved, they cascade into other areas. And that leads us to this c thyroid chaos and causing more serious dysfunction, leading to disease, leading to symptoms, leading to what we call cellular death in terms of like your body, your thyroid is your body's engine, and it's gonna start slowing down and down, regulating, leaving you with this worsening effects, worsening symptoms, worsening life <laugh> for a lack of better, better term right now, because we're forgetting all of these other steps, we're forgetting all of these other hormones, and your doctor is saying, Hey, Tammy, here's a pill.

(20:20):

Hey, Jessica, here's some thyroid medication. Come back in six months. Well, what about all of these other things? So yeah, you, your thyroid labs may be normal, and they may be fine, and they may be good and whatever, but we're not addressing the foundational things that are happening inside the body that lead to true and everlasting health and wellness. All right, you guys, I'll see you on the next. Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming masterclass on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake, and also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again.

(21:33):

Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog. We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for upcoming class, and get all of the details on the dates and times. I'll see you on the next

(22:36):

Way before you you go. Please subscribe. If you found value in today's episode. Leave us and share on Instagram and please tag us.

 

137// Removing Emotional Barrier That are Keeping You Stuck

SHOW NOTES

Healings Question Guide by Wendi Jensen 

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SHOW NOTES AT 

 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

CONTACT LINKS

 

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION

(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more. After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanson Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast cast.

(01:22):

Welcome back to the th Thyroid podcast. As promised, I told you we were gonna be talking more about the emotional components to your thyroid and how it's all interconnected and why we need to pay attention to not only are thyroid, but also to the feelings and the emotions that we are experiencing. In today's episode, I'm gonna be talking about specifically a book by Wendy Jensen. It is called The Healings Question Guide. Revelent Question. Yeah, revelent <laugh>. Am I saying that right? Revelent questions to ask the mind to activate healing inside the body. So before I share with you guys a little bit about what the thyroid says, I wanna share with you how I was introduced to this book and why I share some of this information with the clients that I work with inside the Hanson method and how it has helped them on their journey to restore thyroid function. So I think most of us know what reflexology is, right? Excuse me guys, I am coughing today. I don't know why my throat is like itchy and scratchy, so I apologize.

(02:47):

But so reflexology is basically, they use the foot as a map to the body, and then they work on specific areas to help with specific parts and organs and, and things inside the body. Well, there's another thing that is a little less commonly known or talked about, and that's called re not reflexology. Foot zoning. And foot zoning is very, very similar to reflexology. However, it brings in the component, like the emotional component of, of that thing. And there's nobody in my area, and this was several years ago, like probably five, six years ago. I traveled to a different state and I don't, like I said, I don't have anybody local in my area, but I have traveled, I had left my kids at home and I went and did this thing and it was like a really great experience for me. And while I was there, I chose to do things that were very difficult for me to do.

(03:55):

So like I went and floated for the first time in like the absent salt pod things floated in pods which was, that was amazing. If you've never done that, please do that. It was incredible. <Laugh>, the second thing is I did foot zoning and I'm in there, I'm getting my feet zoned. She's working on me. It's like going really well and okay, so super embarrassing. I had an ingrown toenail and I was like, should I cancel? It's kind of gross, like whatever. And I just had the feeling, no, just keep going. And so we're sitting there talking, I don't know this person. And she's like, oh, I see you have an ingrown toenail. And I'm like, yeah, I'm so sorry. Like, I was thinking about canceling, like it wasn't bad, but it was just kind of like puffy and inflamed and and tender, right?

(04:48):

And she was like, so we're talking about other things. And she's like, wow, you're really tied up in this spot and you're really tied up in this spot. And I was like, you know, and she's talking about these emotional components and I'm like, yeah, I really have been tied up in that area. Well, that's cool. That's crazy, you know? And she worked on me. So my session for was like, for an hour. She worked on me for like 90 minutes, you guys, and she's like, I just feel like I really need to do this for you. And I was, so anyways, I obviously paid her. I tipped her really well bec for her time, and I was just so appreciative. But anyways, we're sitting there, she's working on me, and she stops and she's like, I just have this feeling that I need to go get this book.

(05:32):

And I was like, okay. So she hands me this book and I'm like, what do I do at this book? <Laugh>? Like, I'm kind of flipping through it, like, I don't know. So then she starts giving me a little more context as to how the body stores emotions, energy, negative feelings and will manifest itself through the physical body. And I wasn't completely new to this, but I was new enough that I still had no idea what that meant. In previous episodes we talked about a few books like the Body Keeps the Score feelings Buried Alive, never Die. I think there was one other one that I recommended <laugh>, I don't remember. Anyways, so I was like, okay. So she's like, well, why don't you just look up, you know, what an ingrown toenail is? And so I looked up, okay, you know, so I'm like, try, I don't see ingrown toenail.

(06:30):

And she's like, well look up toe. And so I went to toe and I searched up ingrown toenail and whatever, and it provided me with I think like five or six different questions. I don't know. Anyways, I laugh about this, but at the time, I mean, I laugh about it now cuz I can, but at the time I was, it would had been like a year, maybe a year and a half since my dad had passed away. And I was maybe even two years, actually, I think it was closer to two years. Anyways, I was playing a lot of what had happened with my dad and I was trying to like make sense of the thing some of the things that happened around his death and just all of these things and in, in his life and my life and how we came together and just all of all of those wonderful emotional components, right?

(07:25):

And I don't remember exactly what the question said, and I, I could go look it up, but it's not relevant <laugh> to the story. But as I was looking it up, I just immediately was like, how does my toe know that I am having daddy issues at this moment? Ah, <laugh>, I was blown away, you guys, and obviously I don't think it said daddy, I think it was like connection or relationship or something along those lines. But I was like, this is the weirdest thing ever. It's, it, it blew my mind. It still blows my mind when I think about the interconnections of the spiritual body and the physical body and how they work together and how our spiritual body tries to communicate with our physical body by doing weird things, <laugh>, right? And so I don't think that these things that we experience are by accident.

(08:37):

It's not by accident. It is something much bigger than we are. So I want to share with you guys just some of the questions when it comes to thyroid. Now, there are nine of them. I'm not gonna do all nine of them because I don't know what the rules are. <Laugh> when it comes to like sharing someone else's information. I will link up in the show notes for you guys like the, the link to purchase it. It is a little bit more pricey to purchase this book. However, I, this book is very well loved. I use this book all the time. If I don't have an answer or if one of my clients is like, I know we're doing all of the right things with food and nutrition and supplementation and lifestyle, I will bring out this book and say, okay, here we go.

(09:34):

We gotta get to work in, in this area. And you gotta start putting forth the emotional work because there's something there. Okay? So when it comes to the thyroid, it says what I meant, what am I afraid to declare to the world in fear of being destroyed, humiliated, or rejected? That one was super powerful. Number two, what criminal secret is in my DNA that is ready to be released? Now, this one has been interesting to me because everybody's initial answer is like, I don't know, like I haven't done a crime or whatever. But as I've had them ponder on it, and as I've pondered on my own experiences and things that I have witnessed seen been a part of whatever there has been, or, well, let me, let me see it this way. Some of my clients grew up in homes with alcoholic parents, with physical abuse that happened with other kinds of abuse or trauma that wasn't necessarily reported or done anything on, right?

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So you may be some kind of victim of some other criminal, whatever, or it can even go back to further generations. When I first read this, one of the things that was brought to my mind is, I have great grandparents, great great grandparents that were alcoholics. They were like town drunks and whatever. And so when I originally thought about it, I was like, well, what, what did they do that needs to be led out? <Laugh>, right? So that one is a super interesting question. This one is also an interesting question. What value have I placed on being misunderstood or that I am not, or that I am an exception? This one, I I also think is an interesting question as well, because sometimes we put value on not being accepted, right? I just don't fit in. And I resonate with this in high school. I grew up in a church where

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Families were everything, right? You married your partner, families lived together happily ever after forever. And all eternity, you know, like the family unit was so central to everything that we had learned about. And I grew up in a home where my parents were divorced. I grew up with a single mom and majority of the time, and I had a lot of, I don't know, baggage. Like my brother completing suicide, my sister getting pregnant as a teen, all of these things. And so I felt like a long time I didn't fit in. And I held that as almost like a badge of honor that I was like, well, I'm just not like everybody else. I'm just not like everybody else and nobody else understands where I'm coming from and whatever. Instead of

(13:09):

Flipping it around like, and having that be a positive thing in my life, I allowed not that to, to be a negative thing. Okay? So, and a and a lot of my clients do similar things where they're like, I feel misunderstood or that like, I'm the exception to all of the rules and whatever. Okay? So the last one that I wanna share with you is what do I need to let go of? A lot of us, I and I, I'm speaking in general terms, have experienced negative things in our life that we hold onto. And it's like we don't want to let them go for whatever reason. And let me give you an example. So you guys, I hate sharing some of these personal things, but I also think that they're super valuable because it allows you guys to learn through my experiences, I hope <laugh> or to be able to put yourself into some of these situations.

(14:15):

So first and foremost my, my brother completed suicide, which I mentioned in this episode when he was 15 years old and he lived with my dad. My parents were already divorced. He lived with my dad. My brother we knew was struggling with anxiety, depression he was doing a lot of like self-medication through drugs and, and whatever. And my dad was court ordered to have my brother on antidepressant medication. Well, I, I don't know if he wasn't taking them. I don't know if my dad didn't provide them for him. I don't, I I don't know the full story. All I know is the end result and there's speculation from a lot of different family members on, you know, what was going on and this, that and the other thing. And I had a lot of negative feelings towards my dad for a very long time. And I essentially blamed my dad for the death of my brother. And a few years ago

(15:18):

I was reading you guys books have been like my saving grace and have allowed me to do the emotional work to heal, right? Anyways, so I talk about books all the time. <Laugh> this one I was reading Dodging Energy Vampires, and I don't remember exactly what it was talking about, but it was talking about, I think it was this book, I could be wrong. But essentially it was talking about how we have to make new meanings for things. And in that book specifically how narcissistic people and people with personality disorders, the likelihood of them changing will never happen. And pairing all of these different things in my life, I just, it hit me so hard when I was reading that book that what happened with my brother had to happen so that my dad and other people could change. And so

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I used that as a way in my life to look for the positive in my brother's passing. Now it's obviously still very hurtful and it's not fun. The anniversary sur his death or his birthday or whatever will drudge up new feelings or emotions. And, and as I go through different stages of my own life and I look at my kids and things like, there's new feelings that come from, from these situations. And anyways, long story short, I've had to make a new meaning behind something that is so terrible and so horrible and so horrific and something I would not wish on anybody. But giving it a new meeting and allowing myself to release that anger, that resentment, that that pain

(17:31):

Has allowed me to heal in many different areas of my life. And I no longer have to hold onto that negativity. I can bless it and release it and move forward with my life, which I think is so important for all of us because in, in this situation specifically, there's just things that I don't know, right? Speculation. I could blame people, I could whatever. But ultimately at the end of the day, I'm the one that is still struggling. I'm the one who still has those negative feelings and those negative emotions that aren't allowing me to, to heal. And so anyways, I just wanted to share that with you. What I recommend is taking some of these questions, purchasing the book if you would like, and start journaling. Start pondering, start thinking, start moving energy around to see what comes up to allow yourself a little bit more healing in all of this.

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And one of the last things that I love about this book is she gives you like a positive affirmation after each area. And so I'm gonna just read that to you. For the thyroid specifically, it says, I can create anything I put my mind to. I am free from the past. I allow, I am allowed to experience the good in life. I will declare to the world the message I have come to share regardless of the outcome. And I just want to leave you guys with that today. I hope that you guys are finding these very valuable and you will be able to apply them to your life and move forward. So as always, head over to Instagram, tell me what you think. I would love to hear if you guys enjoy some of these emotional connections with the thyroid and maybe some aha moments that you guys have had on today's epi. Excuse me, today's episode. I'll see you guys on the next

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Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

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We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

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(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

(01:21):

Hey, you guys, welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. Ah, okay, so I went down a bit of a rabbit hole the other day, and this was sparked by one of the questions that my client, one of my clients had about calcium shells and minerals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I was like, Hmm, this is interesting. Well, I found this article that was just, it was so enlightening to me about my own life, <laugh>, and the feelings and my experiences that are happening right now. And I like, in all honesty, some of this I have known, but because of where I'm at right now, it just hit me in a different way. So this article, what it's called, calcium and Magnesium Shell Patterns by Dr. Lawrence Wilson. Obviously, I'm not gonna read all of his information or whatever, but I want to give a little bit of context and help you guys understand a little bit about what this means when it comes to your body, comes to your thyroid, comes to your emotions, whatever.

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So when I meet people, I do my darnedest not to like diagnose them or anything, and a lot of times I don't until they may ask me a question and then my brain goes, it starts calculating all of this information. And I can, and, and again, I don't diagnose anybody, I don't treat anybody. I just give information on maybe some healthy things or some habits that you should do. So, for example, I had a call today with a lady who was interested in working with me on, in, in my program, wanted to collect some information, and we just had a conversation and I, and at the end I was like, I just feel like I need to give you some action tasks. I don't do that with everybody, but I was like, I just feel very strongly that I need to tell you to do this thing.

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And she was like, okay, you know, great, thank you. Whatever. And, you know, we closed the call shortly thereafter. Anyways, I, yeah, okay, <laugh>, I, so let's just kind of go into this. And before we go into calcium, magnesium shells, what I wanna share with you guys and why I feel like doing the functional testing is so vitally important over blood serum. Now, we've had different calls, we've had different podcast episodes where we've talked about some H T M H and a few things like that. But today, <laugh>, today we're talking about calcium and magnesium, because this is some of the most common things that I see happen with women with thyroid. And I don't wanna say it's an easy fix because it's not per se it will take time, but it's fixable, it's figure outable, right? Everything is figure outable and, okay, so blood labs, it only tells you what's happening in your body at that time.

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So blood chemistry is super important and like a whole other beast. But what I have found is doing the H T M A testing is the most affordable with the most amount of information and results per the person. And so it makes sense in my brain to do something like that over all of these other fancy tests because let me just be honest with you, you're gonna find something wrong with every functional test that you ever do. I, like, I, I got caught up for a long time in like this test and that test and this, and da, da, da, da, and we're gonna throw all the things at you and whatever, like, there's always gonna be something to work on <laugh>. And so anyways, with the htma, what I have found is we're able to preserve a lot of information in that. And the cool thing about the H C M A is that it's an accumulation test over the last like three months.

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So it's not just what is happening right now for you, it is what is happening over the last several months. And so we're getting a good idea of what your body is actually doing, not just that day and time. So when we look towards thyroid and not like a diagnostic tool, we can just see based off the minerals, what if they're underperforming and leaving a tendency towards thyroid dysfunction. Those two minerals are calcium and potassium. And what I see is calcium is so high, it creates this, they call it a calcium shell, and that calcium becomes non-absorbable or in a form that the body can't utilize. So we start pulling minerals and nutrients from the bones, the tissues other areas of the body or, and or creates calcium deposits, all of these wonderful things that we don't want to happen. And that leads us to thyroid issues, other issues like anxiety.

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We'll get into all of that. So the first thing that I want to tell you is when we think of the word shell, we, this is used in correlation to like that physiological aspect of like with drawing or running interference, or we just, I, I don't know how many of you guys have ever said like, I feel like a shell of a person, or I just don't feel like myself, or I feel empty inside. There may be a bigger reason why you feel that way. And oftentimes it has to do with calcium. Your calcium creates that shell and that lowers your awareness. It's gonna cause numbing or calcification. It's gonna be, it's gonna cause some trauma. You might feel depressed and living in that bomb shelter or behind a wall, like you might just feel like I am not connecting with anybody.

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And I have experiences recently I've been telling my husband, I'm like, I just don't feel connected. Like I, I'm in the same room. I'm trying to be a part of the conversation and I just don't feel connected. And you guys, <laugh>, when I look at my levels right now with this calcium, I have what is called a triple calcium shell. So my calcium shell, since giving birth is super, super high. Anyways, we don't have to go into all of that, but I'm like, this makes so much sense. So calcium and magnesium shells, they pretty much never appear in children. Never, never in babies. And they are also fairly rare in elderly people. So meaning ages like above 70 or so. However, they are common in later teen year, teenage years, and they occur in adults. And they are much more common in women than in men.

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And yeah, so one of the other things that I found really interested, interesting in, in reading this, is how many kids today are experiencing depression, anxiety, things like that. And how many women are also experiencing this when our calcium is high and we create this calcium shell, this is a trauma indicator. So the higher the calcium, the higher <laugh> the trauma has been, and the more important it is for releasing trauma in whatever way, right? And, and trauma, meaning it can be emotional, but it could also be physical, right? Like I went through a, I don't wanna say traumatizing pregnancy, but I went through a tough pregnancy, okay, this last time. All of my pregnancies are not typically fun <laugh>. And this one was particularly difficult and challenging because I was vomiting and very sick for about six months of this pregnancy. And then I got a virus and I was in bed for a month, and then I ha you know, like it was just one thing after another.

(10:59):

And because of other pregnancies, I was holding onto some, I think probably trauma responses. Like I, I was holding onto some of the negative things because, because of other experiences that weren't super great. Okay? so the interesting thing, and people are like, so here, here's what came up with this client. She said, I want to break down this calcium shell that I have. She suspected she had a calcium shell, and she, so late last year, I think October, November, she had like her second mom got really sick, was had cancer, and essentially passed away. And this client of mine was helping, her mom was helping other people. Her, her friend, you know, her, her the second mom's kids through this period, this difficult and challenging period of time. And so she was like, I just put up this wall. Her words, okay, I put up this wall to help protect myself from experiencing the negative things, but I, because I was trying to help everybody else.

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And I was like, wow, that's so interesting. So she was talking to me about how she could break down this calcium wall or calcium shell, and that's what I wanna share with you guys today. So in my thyroid rescue guide that I recently published and put out, I talk about three things that are going to help you recover thyroid function. Number one is gonna be food. Food is vastly important when it comes to thyroid at helping to balance your pH levels, keeping the body in a, a state of low inflammatory, right? A low inflammatory response, as well as nourishing the body on that cellular level. If your diet is keyed in, we have to look at what other minerals are playing a role in all of this. Okay? the second action that we have to look at is, or the second action that I recommend is cast oil packing.

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Now, for some of my clients, I'll be honest, cast oil packing, and this is very rare, okay? I've worked with several hundreds of women and this has only happened like twice, okay, <laugh>, but they have negative side effects from cast oil packs. And so we have to go to a different alternative thing. So cast oil packing essentially is where you use cast oil, you get a cloth. I love the Queen of Thrones kit. She like, she has a, a pad essentially that can tie around your waist. And then they have the Castro oil. So all you do is you put a little castro oil on the pa, on the pa, the pad, the paper, the <laugh>, the cloth, whatever that thing is called. You tie it around your liver, you sit with like a heating pad on it. You might sleep with it in or however you wanna do that, but three times a week, 30 minutes is great.

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You can do it every day, you can sleep in it. It's super safe and effective in most cases. With that being said, that is one of the other things that I recommend because it helps to detoxify the liver, it helps get rid of extra hormones. A lot of my clients report better sleep, more energy, the need for less caffeine, things like that. Like they just start feeling better almost immediately. Shoulder pain starts going away, blah, blah, blah. Okay? The third thing, and this has to do with your minerals, is something called an adrenal cocktail. I'm gonna sh put this in the show notes. And I will also be sharing this information on Instagram. It's probably already up by the time you guys are listening, meaning to this. But essentially it is vitamin C, sodium, which is gonna be like your sea salt and potassium, which is cream of tartar.

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So what I choose to do is I have a 40 ounce Stanley cup, I fill that up, I squeeze in half a lemon, sometimes a whole lemon just depending on how I feel. And then about a fourth of a teaspoon of sea salt and a fourth of a teaspoon of cream of tartar. And so that's providing me with the vitamin C that I need to absorb it. It's also giving me the sodium and potassium that my body needs. Now, the cool thing that happens when we drink this is sodium and potassium are the body's solvent minerals. They help keep calcium and magnesium in the solution of blood. Meaning that if these levels, well actually lemme say this first, meaning that your body is able to utilize the calcium and magnesium that you are getting from your food and or supplements. So one of my clients, she, okay, her magnesium levels, every time she went in to get tested, her magnesium levels were low.

(16:29):

So her naturopathic doctor is like, increase your increase, increase, increase. You know, well just keep taking more, keep taking more. Cause she was taking over 900 milligrams of magnesium per day and not feeling any better after months. And so I finally was, well, she started working in with me afterwards, I was like, yeah, that's a lot of magnesium. Like a therapeutic dosage is 500 and you're taking almost double that. And so they're telling you to just increase. Yeah, I, I'm not happy with this. So anyways, those sodium and potassium help keep it into the bloodstream. So if the levels of these minerals become too low in the tissue, not in the blood, then calcium, magnesium will begin, toci precipitate out of the blood and form hard deposits all over the body. And this can be reflective in the H T M A testing. And it's also very common today because sodium and potassium decrease in the tissues when the adrenal glands are nutritionally deficient.

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So they're depleted inside the body, and that's going to wreak havoc on your adrenal hormones. And specifically your aldosterone levels for your thyroid are going to be depleted as well. So you're gonna just not feel super great. You're gonna feel like a shell of a person. You're gonna be depleted nutritionally, you're gonna feel not like yourself in terms of all of the things. And so those adrenal cocktails help with that glandular activity that's happening inside the thyroid, are inside the adrenals and helping you to restore that function and feel energized. Now, I've been doing adrenal cocktails for a little bit of time, and what I've noticed is just an increase in energy overall and stamina throughout the day. Like, I don't need or want or desire the caffeine that I used to as I've been doing this. And I know that it is helping to resolve some of that calcium and magnesium shells, helping to make other nutritional things, minerals inside my body more bioavailable, which is playing into the overall health and wellness to the body as a whole. So hopefully this was super impactful for you guys. And you guys got something good out of this. I will link up the thyroid rescue guide in, in the show notes for you guys to check out. And yeah, then you guys can start implementing some of those other things. I'll see you guys on the next.

(19:45):

Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming masterclass on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake. I'm also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(20:52):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I will see you on the next wait,

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135// Learn to Eat According to Your Metabolic Type To Improve Weight Management

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

CONTACT LINKS

 

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

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134// Mineral Are Like Your Bodies Spark Plugs, and Why You Need To Pay Attention To Them With Jeanne Clunn

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Healings Question Guide by Wendi Jensen 

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

CONTACT LINKS

 

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION

(00:00):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast Cast.

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Hey you guys, welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. I'm pretty excited for this conversation and this topic. We have Jeanie Clone with me on Jeanie Clone is a certified nutrition counselor, co consultant, an H T M A consultant, and the founder and creator of the of Nutrition Jeanie, and the Calm and Balanced Mama Method. She,

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I nailed

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It. <Laugh>. Yeah. OK. <Laugh>. She specializes in nutrition and women's or female physiology and mineral mapping to help tired, burned out mamas overcome their stress induced metabolic issues like low energy, mood swings and adrenal fatigue so that they can get back to feeling like themselves and be present with the lives they have built for themselves. I love this so much. And you guys, we have had Jeannie on, do you remember, I think it was like episode 43. Yep. I found it. So episode 43, when we just first started this podcast talking about adrenal fatigue. So if you guys like this episode and you want more of it, go back and check out episode 43. But welcome, Jeanie to the call.

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Thank you. And thank you so much for having me back. It was so fun last time. And I love how we've both just sort of like grown and evolved and we get to touch base again with all this new information. So thank you for having me.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I find that like over time, like you said, our message evolves and we can get more clear on what we're doing and how we're helping people. And we both, I think since that period of time have implemented the H T M A testing. And so I think it's gonna be a really fun conversation to, I mean, we both work with different women, but there's some overlap, right? Sure. So let's talk first about what is an H T M A? Do you wanna start with that?

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Yeah, so the, the H T M A, it stands for Hair Trace Mineral Analysis, right? And so it is a functional lab that we utilize a sample of the hair. So I mean, you know, the, a common thing I get when I say this is like, how's this even accurate? This is how people do like drug tests, right? Like, think about the accuracy of that, right? So we use a sample of the hair to look at the mineral levels and the heavy metals in the body over a three month average, right? So we get to see not just what's happening at that moment in time, which I think, and I'm sure we'll probably talk about it, is like a big pitfall of a lot of other testing, right? But we get to see the trends, we get to see the patterns, we get to see how your body is responding and what direction it's going based on the information that we see on that test.

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Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. So let's stick there for just a second and compare that with Blood labs. Like why, I mean, do you, what's the difference between an H T M A and a blood lab, which you kind of started to explain, but <laugh>?

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Yeah. I mean, I feel like this is such a big question, and I bet that you and I could do an entire episode talking about this, right? But it's like when we, when we look at this, I feel like blood labs are the standard of care, right? A woman goes to their doctor and they're like, I'm fatigued, I have mood swings, I'm irritable, I'm overwhelmed. PM m s thyroid issues, right? Weight gain. And they're like, let's do some blood work. And inevitably, you and I both know, and everybody here listening probably knows what the results of those blood work is, right? It's, they're normal <laugh>, right? Yep. And so I think that the big frustration there for like me and somebody like you, I imagine, and the women getting the testing is the limitations of those tests, right? And so when I look at the blood work, I sort of see two major limitations.

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One is that blood is homeostatic, right? And so for those people not listening, that just basically means your blood wants to stay in a very tight, narrow range, and it will do so at all expenses. So it's gonna pull from your cells and your tissues, and it's gonna take from other parts of your body to stay in that range, stay in that type balance, right? So that's sort of inherently as flawed because it's designed to stay in balance. So we're expecting normal, right? The other issue is it's a point in time snapshot. And so we are seeing at that moment, they stuck that needle in your arm and they drew that blood. What is going on? And like, when it comes to thyroid, when it comes to adrenals, when it comes to the metabolism, these bodies are stressed. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, right? And so most of the blood work people are told to done to do it fasted fasting is a stressor <laugh>. So now I'm going in a stressed out state to get this point in time snapshot that's probably gonna show things that aren't necessarily accurate if I wasn't artificially inflating it or if I got to see the trends, right? So it's, it's such a small, small piece of the puzzle. And I feel like doctors hang their hat on that as you're normal. And then you get labeled as like the hypochondriac or the, you know, this is just what it's like, so

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It's very, or a mom, or you're just stressed, or you're just a nurse, or you're just a teacher and this is totally normal. And it's like, right, I believe I know what's normal for me, and if I am not feeling like things are normal <laugh>, then you need to take my word for it and not just dismiss me. And, you know, I think there's a lot of like, not tricky things, but there's ways that you can kind of pressure your doctor into doing labs. But still, at the end of the day, if your doctor doesn't think you need medication, he's not gonna give you medication. And they only learn medicine. And this is what I've heard and try to explain to people over and over again. I'm like, they only know how to wait until you're in a state of disease and give you a prescription. They don't know how to get your body from point A to point B. And this is something that we talk about in like, my masterclass is

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Our how do, how am I, I like have it so like beautifully written on <laugh>. Like the, the thing that I'm like, I don't know if I can find it. But really, like you don't have a thyroid medication deficiency. You don't have a birth control deficiency. No. You have some kind of other deficiency that is happening inside of your body and no doctor out there will even tell you that that medication is going to heal your body on that cellular level. It's going to cover up the symptoms and it's gonna make you feel better, but it's not going to heal the body

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Well. And to that point, those medications that make you feel better, if you actually look what's what they're doing in your body, they're actually just depleting you more. Yeah. So when women get on this cycle, to your point about the birth control and all these things, I call it the cycle of more, right? Mm-Hmm. The woman who's put on this low dose antidepressant and it works for six months and then she's gotta up the dose and then she's gotta up the dose, or then she's gotta switch. It's not that the medication isn't necessarily working to mask the symptoms or whatever. It's that it is actually causing further imbalance in your body because that's not the problem.

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Right? Right. Absolutely. And I can speak into that, like I have a whole episode on the podcast about birth control and how it doesn't fix your hormones. Long story short, at 17 I was having crazy hormonal acne and went to the doctor, they're like, let's put you on birth control. And I was like, I, I remember, I was like, I'm not taking birth control. I wasn't sexually active and my mind at 17, I was like, I don't need birth control cuz I'm not having sex. Like, I'm not trying to prevent pregnancy. And they were like, okay, well we'll send you to a dermatologist. And I actually made a very funny comment. She like, made my mom leave the room and, you know, whatever. And she's like, are you sure? And I was like, listen, unless I'm the next Virgin Mary, there is zero possibility of me being pregnant <laugh>.

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Right. You know? And she was like, oh, okay. Anyways, so then they sent me to a dermatologist. A dermatologist kind of said, well, let's put you on birth control. I said, no <laugh>. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. Ultimately we did all of the topical creams and lotions and potions and everything. And they were like, okay, well now we have to put you on Accutane. Well, when you get put on Accutane, you have to take birth control. And if I would have known what those two medications would deplete and do to my body moving forward, essentially what had happened is, I remember after that, so my skin cleared up, I had beautiful skin. And I look at back at pictures, I'm like, dang, my skin looks so good being on Accutane. Like, I've always heard of like people getting dry lips or whatever. No, my skin was like flawless, you know, filter perfect kind of skin.

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Right? And, but after that is when I started struggling with fatigue. I remember being in church, I remember, you know, going out with friends and just being like, I am so tired. It is eight o'clock, I'm ready for bed, I'm ready for a nap. You know? And at the time I dismissed it because I was waking up at like five o'clock in the morning to go to work, but at the same time I was going to bed at eight o'clock at night. Like, there should have been no reason. That's Yeah. Yeah. That I was tired and felt like I needed a nap. So anyways, it's silly. It's silly.

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It's, yeah, there's definitely not true informed consent when it comes to that, you know, and, and like getting back, I think to your original question about like these pros and cons, and you said like, doctors don't have a path from point A to point B until you're in that disease state. You know, you can even add that on as another pitfall to something in blood work because the range of normal, like it's a range, right? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And so what's normal for you isn't normal for me. But if we're both in that, I mean that, that range is like a trench, right? Like

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Yeah. Yeah.

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We're within it. So we're both gonna be treated the exact same way and it's, it's just unacceptable in my opinion.

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Yeah. and I'm sure you've heard this too, when we, when I do h TMAs on clients, one of the things I get when they're getting the results or you know, we're going over what we're finding, they're like, why is my doctor not doing this <laugh>? Right?

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Right. <Laugh>, it's so simple. Right? And non-invasive,

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Non-Invasive, affordable, right. I feel like out of a lot of the testing out there, like it's very

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Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, I can't hear you. <Laugh>,

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Can you hear me now? I

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Can hear you now.

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Okay. I hit the like little like mute, but not my thing. On accident. I feel like it's very affordable, it's non-invasive, but I've told everybody, I'm like, it takes time and it takes skill to learn and read and interpret versus, oh know, looking at blood work and having someone on there already tell you high, low, normal. Like, they look at it and they're like, okay, yeah, you know, your T S H is high, your cortisol is high. Okay, here's a medication mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, like,

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There's more to that when it comes to the H T M A for sure.

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Yeah. So let's, let's kind of transition. What can the H T M A show you?

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Oh my gosh. Well, I mean for me, I feel like it can show you basically everything, right? Yep. I mean, like I said, it shows you all those minerals, it shows you the heavy, heavy metals. But then what's really valuable about the H T M A is that then you can see, cuz nothing in our body works in isolation, not just minerals, right? But nothing. So the H T M A actually shows us like key mineral ratios and how they affect different functions in our bodies. So then we can see how's the metabolism doing? How's it actually responding to stress? Can we get nutrients and hormones into our cells? Right? How are the cells responding to the thyroid hormone? Because as I'm sure you've probably talked about a bajillion times, like your thyroid could be doing what it wants and what it needs to do, but it can't get into the cell, right?

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Yeah. What are our adrenals doing? Are they in fight or flight or are they depleted? Right? So we get all this information that's not just telling us the problem, right? It's not just saying like, oh, you have high cortisol, let's throw an adaptogen at it. Right? Like something like a Dutch test or something will, which I could go off on a whole thing about that. Right? But it's telling you like the why and what's actually happening. So I'll give you an example. I had this client nurse practitioner. So in the medical field, this woman knows her stuff, you know? Yeah. And she had the unfortunate experience of having six pregnancy losses in 22 months.

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Oh my gosh. Oh, that's devastating. Right?

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So it makes your heart hurt just to like think about it, right? So she obviously, in her profession, even not in her profession, anybody has to know that that's not normal, right? She does all the blood work, she does the Dutch test, everything came back within range. Like even her cortisol and the Dutch test, she's like, everything's normal. Like, I don't know why this is happening. We run the H T M A Shannon, her lead levels were literally off the chart. The highest lead I've ever seen. Oh gosh. The highest lead my H T M A mentors have ever seen. Her copper was off the chart. Her zicon was off the chart. Like there's no way that a body with that amount of metals in it is gonna wanna sustain a pregnancy, you know? Yeah.

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Yeah. But

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She just got from all those other labs, you're normal.

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Yeah. Hmm.

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<Laugh>, right? And it's, it's like we could even take that a step further. It's like, okay, well we see all these metals, but then we also see because of that, her adrenals were in this massive acute state of fight or flight.

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Oh yeah.

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Adrenals that are trying to keep you safe, are not gonna do, they're not gonna sustain a pregnancy, you know? And so long story short, we, we identified this via the H T M A that none of the other testing had. We actually identified the source. She had well, water that was acidic, that was corroding her pipes and leaching metals into her drinking water. She's remediated the issue, she's got a plumber out, she's got new pipes. Those levels are starting to come down on the test, and we're now actually able to see what's going on in her body. And she's actually quite depleted. Like her adrenals are

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Like, I was gonna say, probably nutritionally too. Yeah. She's doesn't have a lot going on if send

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Them a lot.

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Yeah. Because

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They're, yeah. She got no calcium, right? Because all the lead antagonize that Mm. She's, it's, but, but everything else, you know, and she was pounding the pavement because she knew said like, Nope. You just, you're just the unfortunate one that has six losses in 22 months.

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Yeah. Well, good luck with that <laugh>. Right? You know, here, here here's fertility treatment. Right. You know? Right. Yeah. my heart literally, like my kids are the best thing that have ever happened to me. And when I hear pregnancy losses, especially that many, that's devastating and heartbreaking. Yeah. And unfortunately, I get emotional thinking about this because I have daughters and I see, I think, I don't even know what the statistics are right now. It's like two out of three women now is struggling with fertility or something, something crazy like that, like

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The case.

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And so me having daughters, I'm like, I don't want them to know that mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, you know, like, no women should have to know that. Ugh. So

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It's hard. It's really hard. Right. But it's, I think that the, the work that you and I are doing and the work that other women are doing in this area and the women who are stepping up and saying like, this isn't okay, this isn't okay for me. This isn't okay. For, like you said, when it's okay for us, we're also sort of subconsciously showing our children that that's what the norm is. Right. And so everybody collectively saying this is not okay, is what's gonna change that.

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Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So I have my H T M A in front of me. Yes. I don't know, <laugh>, this was from, when did I do this? I did it nine 13 of last year. So I just speaking about like women's hormones and thyroid and all the things and pregnancy loss. So this is me postpartum. And one of the tendencies that I had on here, which was a low tendency, was a me, which I thought, like when I first saw that, I was like, oh, that's so weird. Like, but as I reflected on it, like I was still nursing mm-hmm. <Affirmative> and I'm postpartum, so I wasn't like, I didn't have a consistent cycle on there. But so aa for people who are like, what the heck is that? Is basically you don't, you're missing periods, you're skipping periods. There's a long period of time between them.

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And then looking at the that and how other minerals are playing with each other. Like, my copper is off, you know, which is leading to depression and hypothyroidism and, and, and all of these other things. And copper is one of those minerals that is being depleted when you are pregnant with baby. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So I guess all of that to say is to your point of the body as an ecosystem, everything is connected. There's so many overlaps that go into an endocrinologist or a gastroenterologist, like in all these specials. Well, that's great. W there's gonna be pieces that are missing mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. So let's dive into what are minerals. So we, I think we've established, just to kind of recap, <laugh> h dmma, show us everything. <Laugh>. Yeah. You know, inside the body and what could be going on. Everything from your metabolism to different trends of like what symptoms or I, it's not, I don't use it as a diagnostic tool but more of like information of like, this is what's going on, or this is where you're headed if you continue going down this road mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, you know

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And I think to that point, you know, in, in your summary, like I always say the htma is the why. Even some of these other things like a Dutch test, it's still just telling you the what. Mm-Hmm. So now you've tested and you still have to guess Yeah. As to why that hormone or whatever is what it is. So the H T M A just tells you like, this is why this, it's these metals, it's these ratios, it's ccs, right?

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Yeah. Yeah. I, I seriously, I'm obsessed with this test. People are like, I've had people, they're like, well, can we do a Dutch test? Can we do this? And I'm like, well, we can, but you're gonna be spending a lot of money. Unnecessary money. Yes. Yes. So let's figure out like what to do, <laugh> mm-hmm. <Affirmative> what to do. So what let's, for someone who's like brand new and has no idea the importance of minerals, because I think we might have heard, you know, oh, take a good multivitamin or whatever, we don't understand. And I, I'll be honest, I didn't understand the importance of minerals for a long time either, even as a practitioner. So what are minerals and why are they important?

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Yeah. So I mean, I think the easiest way to answer both the what and the why is minerals are essentially like the spark plugs in your body. So your car's knocking around without a spark plug. You can have the engine, you can have the breaks, you can have everything, right? But you need the spark plugs. And so that's what minerals are in our body. We need them for, to kick off all the processes. Right. So, you know, I don't know, I'm just thinking of things you hear like, eat more protein. It's good for your hormones, right? Like you actually need the minerals to create the stomach acid to break down the protein. Right? And so it's sort of that lowest level in your body that kickstarts or catalyzes everything else that you need to function. Right? It's what we use to break down and digest food.

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Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. man, I could just geek out like I wanna, I wanna go all these places and I'm like, the listeners are not gonna understand <laugh> the nerdiness of, of this information. And I, oh, it's not behind me. I have a whiteboard and I did a Facebook Live the other day and I was essentially trying to show people using a diagram of how thyroid and low stomach acid are connected based off minerals mm-hmm. <Affirmative> and because how your adrenals are connected because of minerals. And then if you have these two problems and you have this problem, then you also have this problem <laugh>, you know? Right. And I'm like, and then you also need these co-factors of B vitamins and whatever mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. And that's why like, and maybe you experience this too, some people they're like, just give me a pill. Just give me, if I could take one supplement, what would it be? And I'm like, it's not that easy.

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It's not

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<Laugh>. Well, I,

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And it's, it's truly different for everybody. And that's what I tell my clients. It's like, all of you are here because you have the same symptoms. Yeah. More or less, right? Yep. It's all for a different reason, right? Yeah. Like a

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Hundred percent,

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The woman who's in double burnout feels that way for a lot different reason than the woman who's full of metals. Right? And so you sure. Like we need nutrient dense foods. Really, everybody should probably have an adrenal cocktail every day, right? Like, these are things that you just do to support, like, we're not gonna get enough magnesium from food. Like these are just basics. But beyond that, you have to see what's going on in your body because it's going to be so different. Like, I, I talked to these women who are like, oh yeah, I went plant-based for my hormones. I went vegan or vegetarian. I see the face you're making, right? Because like, we know what that looks like on the H T M A and it's not good, but the way that you address that is not just throw more protein in the diet because again, like you need certain minerals to create the stomach acid to break down that protein. Right? And so it's different for everybody. I would totally agree with that.

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Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I, we all burn minerals at different rates as well. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, you know, based off our metabolism, based off environmental things, based off stress, like Oh yeah. <Laugh> based off even things like pregnancy and nursing, right? Like I, my nutritional needs have changed mm-hmm. <Affirmative> and I'm like, I'm having a hard time keeping up, you know, nursing and <laugh>.

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Well, it's hard. And, and to that point, like what's going on with your metabolism also impacts that, right? Somebody whose metabolism is a lot faster is actually burning through their nutrients more quickly than somebody whose metabolism is slow. But that person with a slow metabolism, metabolism needs more nutrients <laugh> to be able to break down their nutrients. Right? So it's, it, it always, it always changes. And I think that's one of the nice things too about HTM a is it is so easy to retest and see where the trends are going and how it's going. Right? You need a teaspoon of hair, that's it. And you have your husband do it at home and you cross your fingers that he doesn't give you a bald spot. Right. <laugh> like, been there. My husband did that to me.

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<Laugh>. Oh no, no. So my husband, I had him like helping and he took a few pieces from around my head, why? And I <laugh>, you know, he was like, well, I don't want to like you know, give you a bald spot essentially. So I was like, okay, whatever. And I remember he took one from like the top of my head head and I was like, I'm gonna have the alpha, alpha hair. But it ended up like, I haven't seen it, it hasn't come through. So apparently it wasn't as much as it felt like, but <laugh>

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Mine literally took a big chunk from the crown of my head where we naturally have like a part took it from there while I was recording the video on how to take a hair sample for the common malice mama method. And I'm like, stay calm. Nobody needs to know you're bald now, <laugh> just stay calm. But truly like you lift up your hair and you get it from, it's so simple, right?

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Yeah. From like, the nap of your neck. Yeah. Yeah.

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Gotta have a good story though. I

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Know. I think, yes, we all need to have those, especially I think us as practitioners, like people think, oh, you're like perfect or, you know, whatever. And it's like, no, we're, we're dealing with the same stuff too.

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My head

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<Laugh>. Yep. So let's kind of go to my last question for you. So what can you tell me about the stage of stress and how it affects your hormones? And this, you said something really interesting and I've never heard of it referred to this as double burnout. So I, I'm interested to hear what you have to say about that, cuz I feel like that's where I'm at. <Laugh>.

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Yeah. So the, the double burnout is basically just when your body is completely depleted, but it's also trying to switch that metabolic type and like slow down. And so it's just like, I mean, I tell my clients with double burnout that this is gonna take, this is a journey, right? Like this is a, a marathon, not a sprint. And it can easily take like six months to come outta that if not more. But because your body is working with so little, every little change you make actually has a really profound impact, right? But so that's sort of the double burnout, right? Is when you're, when you're transitioning when you're really low and when you have a really low like sodium to potassium ratio so that nothing can get inside of your cell, right? Because we can do all the right things. And again, if you can't consist can't get inside of the cell, then what does it matter?

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I'm looking at mine,

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See you flipping

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<Laugh>. Right,

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So word in a to K ratio.

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Yeah. Yeah. So mine as what, what is that? Like September, September is nine, right? So as of September, mine was 3.67.

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Okay. So you're not inverted yet.

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Not completely

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<Laugh>. It would be the double burnout is like the four lows pattern with the

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Inversion. Okay?

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So for those of you listening, four lows is like we've got four minerals, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium that we need in more amounts than every other mineral because they regulate our metabolism or thyroid, our adrenals in our blood sugar. And so when those are all below optimal values and then you also can't get nutrients into the cell, that's, that's a bad place to be, right? Like that's a really exhausted stage of stress. And when you're an exhausted stage of stress, it goes without saying that your body is not prioritizing a lot of hormone creation. Right. It's prioritizing survival.

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Yeah. Yep. And survival hormones are not sex hormones, they're not thyroid hormones. It is cortisol and insulin. Yep. And you will crave more sugar, more sweets, more salt. I actually have one client who we, I just got her test results back and I was looking at them this morning she's, and you would probably know, you know what, what I mean by this? She's a fast four, but she's, she's in burnout like so far. <Laugh> in

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Let's double burnout.

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Yeah. So she's so far in double burnout and we, I do like a weekly check-in with my clients and she commented and said, still struggling with sweets, the addiction is real and

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This literally is real. It literally is biological.

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Yes. I'm like, and so I'm sitting over here giggling because I'm like, yeah, I could tell you to avoid all of the sweets and to, you know, go take this, you know, let's say magnesium to help with cravings or some chromium or whatever. But until some of these other things are fixed, right? It's like this is where you feel like you're bumping up against a wall over and over and over again and you're going crazy and your doctor's telling you you're crazy and then you really start feeling crazy. But you're like, but I'm not crazy but I feel crazy.

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<Laugh>. I think that's when women give up hope and they just, they just stay where they are. Right. But it's like, what if we reframe this? What if we say like those cravings that you think are so bad for those sweets, what if they're actually your body trying to keep you safe?

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Yep.

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Because when you are in survival mode, you need energy asap. When you are in double burnout, your body needs energy. So what if that's actually a huge sign from your body that it's trying to keep you safe? Yeah. And that that's what needs to be addressed and not the fact that you ate a dag on cookie.

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Yeah. I, so this brings up like another point that I kind of wanna share is I have another client si similar kind of situation. Her test, like we've been working with her she's insulin resistant, hypothyroidism insulin re Oh I said insulin resistant. Oh she's diabetic. She's diabetic. I said insulin resistant, she's diabetic. She's also in burnout, not double burnout, but she's pretty close to it. And she came to a coaching call and she's like, I am having cravings for sweet. And she's like, please don't let the answer be to just stay away from it cuz that's not working <laugh>,

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That's never the answer.

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So I <laugh>, I was like, all right, so eat the sweet. And she was, yeah. And everybody on the call was like, what? Like, you know, and I was like, so some of it we kind of dove in a little bit further and some of it was emotional for her, but it was also triggered with an intense, like every time it happened, it was at work. She was dealing with a specific co-worker in a stressful situation.

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Boom. Cortisol.

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Yeah.

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Here's, here's what was likely happening and I would be so curious if you pulled up her results and saw she had massive blood sugar dysregulation. Oh yeah. Cause what was likely happening is she was getting stressed out in that situation. Her body was releasing cortisol, which dumps glucose and then because she didn't have any fuel and anything to help shuttle it into the cell, then she was having a hypoglycemic attack where her body's like, holy crap, I need sweets. Nope. You were stressed and now your blood sugars melts. That's probably what was happening. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and sure the stressor was an emotional trigger, which is why we then tied it up with emotional eating.

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Yep.

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But everything that happened between was physiological.

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Yeah. Well and it's so interesting that you bring that up because on our coaching call this week, this is, this is what we've been dealing with this with this particular person is she's like, and we've been tracking her blood sugar levels every single morning. So she tracks 'em throughout the day. I've been tracking them first thing in the morning. So fasting when she first takes 'em in the morning and sh I'm like, we were doing so good. And I was like, things are getting better. We could see like trends going down. They were starting to stabilize, you know, all of the things. And then she started having to go back into the office and then we see these days, so she's not in the office every single day, but she came to the call cuz I'm like, okay, we need to see, you know, if there's correlation with what you're eating the day before or this or that, you know, like we've been trying to, to narrow some of these things down. And this week on the call, she said on the days that I had a really stressful day before, my blood sugar is super high that next morning.

(35:11):

Because when you're stressed, as you know, you burn through your nutrients. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So then she probably, her liver probably couldn't keep her blood sugar stable overnight. And she's stomping glucose first thing in the morning, has high fast fasting blood share.

(35:25):

Yeah.

(35:26):

I mean it's, it's crazy how even understanding that. So I have a client that she was like pre-diabetic when we started working together. Or she was right there at the, right there at the line. She moved into like diabetic range and her doctor was like, I wanna put you on medication. And she was like, look, we had gotten her off melatonin that she had been on for 10 years. We had gotten her off antidepressants that she had been on for three years. She was like, I'm working with somebody, can I just please try and do this naturally? Yeah. They were looking at this via her a1c. She just got her three month A1C retested. She went from a 6.7 to a 6.3 and it wasn't because, so she's back in pre-diabetic. Right. And it wasn't because she was restricting carbs and restricting the sweets and doing all this.

(36:09):

It was because she understood all of this and understood what you just described. The stress triggers the glucose and this and that. Right. That are we, we are have a more heightened stress response in the second half of our cycle in our LTE phase. Right. Which going all the way back to the top of the hour. Right. Like that's another issue I have with the DUTCH test is we're testing it in the second half of the cycle. So we're more likely to have high cortisol and then again we're gonna throw it a on adaptogen at it. Right. So it's like understanding all of these things is how you actually fix them <laugh>

(36:40):

Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>.

(36:41):

Right? And and all of that comes down to the why. And the why is what's going on with your body and the things that are going on with your body are powered by minerals.

(36:50):

Yeah. Yeah. This is so good. I don't even wanna end this conversation.

(36:55):

I could geek out on minerals like all day on day.

(36:58):

I know, I know. And I like I get started on this stuff and it's so there's not a lot of practitioners I find that know this stuff like maybe high level mm-hmm <affirmative>, but there's not a lot of people who dive into like the H TMAs and stuff because it does take skill. It takes me time to sit down and to look at everybody's stuff and information and look at ratios and how things are playing with each other and then correlate it to your symptoms. Like it's not like I don't sit down and say, oh yep, thyroid. Oh yep. Adrenal fatigue. Right. You know? Yeah. It's like a puzzle piece. And that's what I find so enjoyable about this but it's also, I don't know what I'm trying to say. It's also work and it's effort on our end to put it together to help you come up with a plan that's going to change your life.

(37:54):

Yep. And I mean, you know, to that point, like as long as you're willing to follow the plan mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, right? Like when you know the why you just gotta take the steps day after day.

(38:07):

Yeah. Yep. Every day. And even when you f fall off, you get back on and you like, you know, and I tell people, you're gonna fall off, you're gonna eat the sweetss, you're gonna feel bad about it because that's what society has told us. But it's about how you recover, it's about how quickly you recover mm-hmm <affirmative> from those things. So,

(38:28):

Alright. Yeah. And I think just really quickly before you wrap up Yeah lemme just, cause I know if I were listening I'd be like, I need me a on H T M M A, right? Yeah. And what I would say and what I do tell my clients with the H T M A is because we are going that next level deeper, it's gonna take longer to like quote unquote heal, right? Mm-Hmm <affirmative> because we're starting at step zero instead of step seven, right? Yeah. So at least that's been my experience. I don't know if it is with yours but doing it the right way, just like anything, it's gonna take a little bit longer.

(39:03):

It is And and I, people ask me all the time, do you just do the H T M A? And I'm like I will, but I can tell you your success rate is going to be super low because there's things that you are gonna need to Yeah. Work at.

(39:22):

Yep. I think it, I I'm the same way. Like it takes a very specific person to be able to take that protocol and and do it on their own.

(39:30):

Yep. Absolutely. Well baby is waking up. So I am going to wrap this up. Thank you so much problem for being on and we'll link everything up. So if you guys want to follow Jeanie on social media or get to know her a little bit more, you know, definitely go ahead, check that out. Is there anything else you want to share with us in closing?

(39:56):

If I open up another can of worms, you're not gonna get to the baby <laugh>, so we'll, we'll just leave it at that and I'll just say thank you for having me one. And I hope people get a ton of value out of this.

(40:05):

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much. We'll see ya the next.

(40:09):

Bye.

(40:09):

Bye. Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming master class on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake. I'm also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(41:18):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I will see you on the next

(41:54):

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133// What Happens When You Can’t Push Through Anymore

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

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(00:00):

What happens when you can no longer push through? Today we're gonna be talking about burnout, which is very, very real with the women that we work with inside the Hampton Method. And I wanna give you guys some tips and strategies to help you avoid burnout.

(00:17):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Handsome Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest expert. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

(01:38):

Welcome to today's episode where we talk about what if you can't push through anymore, your willpower no longer allows you to do it, and you finally hit burnout and what that actually looks like. So before we dive into today's content, I wanna start with a story because I think this is relatable. At least I hope I can tell it in a way that is relatable. And this is a true story. This is based off of a client. Her name is Sarah. And I've worked with Sarah for a couple years now, and I feel honestly so blessed and honored to have the ability to have her trust me in such a deep way. And so before Sarah came to me she had gone to numerous doctors, specialists, functional medicine doctors naturopathic doctors, holistic doctors, and also conventional doctors to treat different, different things happening, whether it was fatigue or varicose veins or, or, or, or, right.

(02:55):

All of the things. So like many of us, she was a mom, she's a stay-at-home mom, very active in her church, volunteered and very active in her children's lives as well, where she was homeschooling then. And she was a goer, a doer, a mover, a shaker, a get her, get her, get her done ki kind of lady which is my kind of person. I love women who can just excuse my language, get done, right? Like that is you guys. And I try not to make this like episode with cuss words in this <laugh>, but I don't know how else to explain it. Like it is women who can just get stuff done in their life are incredible, but women who do that are more prone to burnout and willpower at some point is gonna run out okay, just like it did for Sarah.

(04:01):

So Sarah came to me, she's like, I've been to all of these doctors. I've tried all these supplements, I've done all these plans, I've taken all these medicines and testing and da, da, da, da, da, right? Like, she had spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to figure it out. And ultimately they just told her, you have chronic fatigue syndrome. There is nothing we can do for you. Or, you know, like it's all in your head. Here's some antidepressants. Like those were really the two solutions that they gave her. And one of them really wasn't a solution, it was just a diagnosis. And the second was, here's here's anti-anxiety and depression medicine. And that was really difficult for her. Like she was at a place in her life where she needed to have energy to homeschool her kids, and she needed to be engaged with them.

(05:00):

And one of my biggest motivations in my life is my children. To be able to be active, an active participant in their life is the like, most important thing in my life. And last year, I'll be honest, I failed <laugh>, at least my definition of failing at feeling fully immersed, emerge, whatever that word is, immersed <laugh> in their life. For a couple different reasons you guys know, I got super sick and the year before, right before, well, hold on. Okay, so 20, 21 at the end of the year, I got really, really sick. I was in bed for an entire month. It took me a month after that to recover while I was pregnant. And then I had the baby <laugh>, and then I was dealing with recovering from having a baby and just the late nights and the early mornings and the lack of sleep and, and on and on and on, right?

(06:09):

And trying to manage everything. And so my mental capacity, my brain capacity, not like I wasn't e i, I don't know what I'm trying to say. Like I was physically there, but my mental state, like I was on overload and I was having a really hard time being present with my kids. Anyways, I think we can all like, just because I was so worried about like baby and nap and diapers and do I have the snacks and do I have this and do I have that? And, you know, when's her next nap and do I, you know, all of those pieces that go into having a newborn. And so for this year, one of my goals is to get back into being that active participant in their life and mentally being there, not just physically being there and being present, but like mentally being checked in and checked on for my older kids.

(07:09):

And that was also one of Sarah's, you know, biggest complaints was that she didn't feel <laugh> as if she could do and be the person that she needed to be for her children. And so she basically came to me saying, I prayed about this. God told me I need to work with you. You're my dad, last ditch effort. Like, I don't, I don't know what I would do after this. And she is like, when I came across your Facebook ads and when I came across your group and everything, she's like, I had literally just got up for my knees, like saying a prayer pleading with God for an answer. Sorry, I'm getting a little emotional. Because I, like you guys are an empath. And so I very much feel what my clients feel. And so I, when I share their stories, I often refuel that <laugh>.

(08:13):

Anyways, so me and Sarah started working together. She was the one client out of all of my hundreds of clients that I've worked with, where I was heavily considering giving her her money back because I, we were like six weeks in, eight weeks in. And it was like she started to feel better, but then like totally regressed. And I knew she wasn't mine. I knew she was a hundred percent in, I knew she was doing everything that we had asked her to do. And I, I, I was like, I don't know what to do. So I had another success coach working with me, and we sat down with her and all of us are in this powwow meeting and you know, we're like, okay, let's try this. Let's do that. You know, and we kind of shifted some things to make it easier that would hopefully, you know, give her bigger results.

(09:16):

And we got off the call, everybody was like, okay, you know, let's give this another like week or two, I think we said two weeks. And, you know, we'll reevaluate. And I remember getting off the call, we let Sarah go and me and this other practitioner were sitting there looking at each other like, holy crap, like, this is, this is pretty big <laugh>. And we were both like, we don't know if we can help her. And you guys, oh, it was like the sweetest thing. Not even a week, maybe a week later, whatever the, it was like between the timeframe that we had set, she came back and was like, I have had the biggest shifts this week. This is what's happened. This is how I'm feeling. And I just, I was like, hallelujah. Like <laugh>, this is the best news of my entire life because I wanted so desperately for her to feel better.

(10:14):

Okay, so let me fast forward in the story. Well not fast forward, let me go back to the beginning of the story and share with you guys about burnout and, and her piece of this story. So like I said before, Sarah was a goer, a doer, a shaker. Like she was the everything person. She coordinated all of the family events. She homeschooled her kids, she X, y, z, right? Like you, you say it, she did it like <laugh>. She was that kind of person. And she told me a story about this one day in particular where she planned her husband's like, I don't know, 40th birthday party or something along those lines. It was a big birthday. She invited all the friends and family and, you know, made this extravagant birthday and was so excited for everything. And she is setting up for the party and she's like, I physically felt this massive shift in my body.

(11:20):

She was like, all of a sudden I could no longer go any further. She's like, the party started in like 20 minutes and she's like, I had to go lay down like I physically could not do anymore. And she went and she laid down and she took, you know, a little power nap and she got up and she said her life was essentially not the same after that. And the reason I tell you guys this is because I, I was having a conversation with someone earlier this week and she said to me, I just, I just power through. I just keep going. I just, you know, like I, yeah, I'm tired. Yeah, my hair is falling out. Yeah, I'm puffing in flame, but like, I just, I just gotta keep going. And immediately I was concerned for her, especially hearing Sarah's story. And I know for me, as I look back, I can pinpoint some dramatic changes in my life that altered my health and a lot of them had to do around stressful events that took everything from me physically and emotionally because I was not allowing myself to rest in those moments of stress and overwhelm.

(12:53):

I would do, you know what most of us women, I think are kind of trained to do, whether consciously or subconsciously, is to just keep going, to just keep pushing through, to just keep fighting to just, you know, well this is just what it's like being a mom. I just gotta keep going, you know? And what I have learned, I would say in the last six to seven years has, and I'm not, I will not even pretend that I'm <laugh> even perfect at this, but I prioritize my sleep and my rest and I prioritize downtime because running a business, being a mom of four kids, being active in my church, and I work in the youth group. So I now work with kids that are girls that are between the ages of like seven and 11, which is perfect. I get to be with one of my daughters and one of my other daughters tags along <laugh>. And we get to do activities down at the church and, you know, just fun things. And I am so grateful that I have that opportunity to do that.

(14:11):

But I couldn't do that and I couldn't do it. Well if I just continued to push through. So I prioritize resting, I prioritize, you know good sleep. I prioritize having time to just sit down and just be, and there's times over the last, I would say three years that I have finally like told my husband at least one to two times a year. I'm like, I have to go camping. I have to physically leave that. Like, I, I have to take vacations you guys, and not just like the vacations to like go do more things. I have to do the vacations where I sit on the beach and do nothing or where we go camping and I do nothing. I have friends that, you know, they're like, we're going to Disneyland and we're doing all these fun things and they just love to like go, go, go.

(15:15):

And I'm like, I can't. Like, I just <laugh>. I just need to be. And I, so anyways, that is what I want you guys to think of this year in 2023 is where are you at in that burnout state? Okay? Because when we are, so, okay, let me back up too. When we are stressed out, we're gonna, a couple things are gonna happen. One, our sleep is gonna be poor. We're not gonna be able to get in a good restful sleep. I don't know, I'm sure everybody can relate to this. When you're stressed out and you're worried about something, you're waking up in the middle of the night thinking about that thing or you're dreaming about that thing. And I'll be honest, the last <laugh>, the last, I don't know, month, I had something really, really big weighing on my mind and I was doing that.

(16:14):

I was waking up in the middle of the night dreaming about the thing, or I was waking up in the middle of the night thinking about the thing, and I was not getting good sleep. I was <laugh> it, it was not a good place for me to be in. And I had to make a very serious decision that was gonna cost me a lot of money. And I did. Thankfully I did. I had to say no, I had to say no to that thing that I thought I wanted. And I had to buy out the contract because it was causing too much stress in my life. And so during that time, my body, that, that state of stress, my body was burning minerals and nutrients at a fast rate. This is why when you're stressed out, you're craving salt, you're craving sugar, you're craving greasy fatty foods because you body is trying to find that nutrients that you're burning at a faster rate, specifically things like calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium and chromium.

(17:22):

You guys, those are the minerals that your body is using when you're under stress and you can get to the place where you are not absorbing that from your food. Because in addition to that, what else is happening is stomach acid is going down and you're not able to break down and absorb your food. So it, you kind of end up in this really terrible cycle. So let's give you guys some more strategies and more tips. So number one, I, I hope at this point you guys realize that sleep and rest are super important in balancing the minerals. Number two, taking eat, prioritize, eating good nutrient dense foods, getting good water right after she said I could this morning. I would also, one of the things that I have all of my clients do, not all of them, a good portion of them do is use adrenal cocktails to support their body during, during high amounts of stress.

(18:32):

So one of the ways that I do this is through, I use lemon juice, I squeeze it, the lemon juice has vitamin C in it. You need vitamin C to make sodium and potassium bioavailable to the body so that you can absorb it. And so I squeeze a little bit of lemon juice in there. There are some like vitamin C powders and stuff, but honestly you guys, like, you don't need to buy more supplements. <Laugh> there are some people who use like orange juice and stuff. I'm not a big fan of orange juice or using juices in this way because it can spike blood sugar levels and I want to keep blood sugar levels stable for you guys. So the like aary vitamin C powder is a good one. I mean I feel like I need to spell ace cuz somebody's gonna be like, what?

(19:28):

A C oh shoot, ia, A c e r o l a, something close to that. Anyways, it has tens and tons of vitamin C so that I just, like I said, use lemon juice. And then you're going to use about a quarter of a teaspoon of cream of tartar and about a quarter of a teaspoon or an eight, you can, depending on the size of your cup of sea salt. So that's gonna give you the sodium and potassium and the vitamin C to help support the adrenal glams and help you feel more relaxed during your day. The other thing, if I were to say one supplement, it would be magnesium. Magnesium glycinate is one of my favorites. It is a really good bioavailable form. You can head over to the show notes and set up an account with Wellevate or Fullscript. I would recommend using pure encapsulation for the brand and taking that every night before bed. It's gonna help you get a better sleep. It's gonna help you relax, it's gonna help you feel more calm and it's gonna help support those adrenals inside of your body so that you can help avoid the burnout. All right, you guys, I'll see you on the

(20:48):

Next. Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming masterclass on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake. I'm also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(21:57):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I will see you on the next

(22:32):

Way before, before you you go. Please subscribe if you found value in today's episode. Leave us a review and share on Instagram and please tag us. We love your please.

 

132// Functional Nutrition and The Practical Use of Functional Testing with Reed Davis

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Reed Davis, Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner (HHP) and Certified Nutritional Therapist (CNT), is an expert in functional lab testing and holistic lifestyle medicine. He is the Founder of Functional Diagnostic Nutrition® (FDN) and the FDN Certification Course with over 4,000 graduates in 50 countries. Reed served as the Health Director at a Wellness Center in Southern California for over 10 years and with over 10,000 clients is known as one of the most experienced clinician in his field. Reed serves on the Advisory Board of the American Natural Wellness Coaches Board and the American Association of Natural Wellness Coaches.

 

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.



Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.



Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 



We got you! 



We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 



Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.



 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  



Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 



We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 



Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 



Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   



But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 



CONTACT LINKS



DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES



PAID RESOURCES



AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen



P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

 AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION

(00:03):

Hi, right guys. I am so excited for today's episode and for you guys to be able to listen in on this conversation. So, before, actually, let me introduce today's person and then I'll tell you a little bit of background. So, Reid Davis is a board certified health holistic health practitioner and a certified nutrition therapist As an expert in functional lab testing and a holistic and holistic lifestyle medicine, he is the founder of Functional Diagnostic Nutrition and the F D N certification course with over 4,000 graduates in over 50 countries. Reid served as a health detective at the Wellness Center in south in southern California for over 10 years, and with over 10,000 clients is known for one of the most experienced clinicians in his field. Reed served on the advisory board serves, he currently does, serves on the advisory board for the national, for the American Natural Wellness Coaches Board, and the American Associa Association of Natural Wellness Coaches.

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You guys, I get asked all the time, <laugh> from my clients, from people interested in working with me, from other practitioners, what courses I have done and, and or if some of my clients are like, I just love what you do. I love how you do all this. If I was to get started, which course would you recommend you guys? Hands down, if you want to get involved in health coaching, nutrition, coaching for the cost, the capability, the functionality, everything. I would highly suggest that you look into the FDN course. They, there is a link in here that you guys will, that Reid shares that you will be able to get some money off your program if you do. I'm tell them that you came from me, so check this out. We talk a lot about what I believe in what I do, and obviously I have merged other certifications and other programs and other experiences and personal experiences and stuff into what I currently do. But I think you're really gonna enjoy this conversation and to be able to get some insight as to who some of my mentors are and why I think and believe and feel the way that I do. So hopefully you guys are as excited for this podcast as I am.

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Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

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Today's interview, I am talking with Reid Davis, and I don't feel like he needs much of an introduction, but a little bit about Reid Davis. So, Reid Davis is a board certified holistic health practitioner and H H P and certified nutrition therapist as an expert in functional lab testing and holistic lifestyle medicine. He is the founder of F D N, also known as Functional Diagnostic Nutrition and the F D N certification course with over 4,000 graduates in 50 different countries. Reid Davis served as a health director at a wellness center in Southern California for over 10 years, and with over 10,000 clients is known for one of the most experienced clinicians in his field. Reid served as an advi, serves as an advisory board of the American Health and American Natural Wellness Coaches Board, and the American Association of Natural Wellness Coaches. And if you guys don't know, I have gone through the F D N course and I am so excited to be talking with Reid today on the podcast. All right, guys, welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. I have Reid Davis with me. He is a powerhouse when it comes to health and wellness, and so I will let him do a quick introduction of himself and we'll dive into all of the wonderful things. So welcome, Reid.

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Hey, thanks so much. It's really good to be here with you, Shannon, and I hope that our listeners today will get something out of this useful. And that's the whole idea behind functional diagnostic nutrition. You know, that's a term I came up with over 20 years ago to describe what we do Previously, it was kind of unknown. We, we pioneered a lot of things long time ago, around the turn of the century, you could say to put people in charge of their own health, you know, frustrated the heck outta me when I started. I, I switched from environmental law, kind of saving the planet, air, birds, water trees, beef, <laugh>, saving the planet to, to saving people. You know, I just, it it, I I wanted to make sure my own health was gonna be good. So I, I changed gears and I, I ran into people who were not doing well.

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Matter of fact, they were coming to our, I went to work in a wellness center alternative place for people to come. And, and I was just amazed at how they had already seen six or eight or 10 different practitioners and weren't better yet. And I said, well, why are you putting your health in someone else's hands? And so that's what started the whole thing. There's a lot of history there, but that's what got me started, was really wanting to empower people. Again, if you, if you allow others to control your health, it's not gonna go well, <laugh>, which we learned lately. <Laugh>

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Yes, I think we have all learned a lot of lessons lately. And I know for me, one of the things that I like to express to people is the importance of breaking the standard practice of care, which is essentially what you're doing is putting the help on ourselves. And if you're not getting the help, the care, the support, the education, whatever it is, going to an alternative place, which is what I think we both strive to do. So tell us a little more, what does FDN stand for and, and how is that different from other things on the market?

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Well, people do have choices. I'm glad you mentioned that. You know, and, and the problem is that you go to people who, if, if it's a physician for instance, you could get told nothing's wrong with you. And this is something that blew my mind. Oh, again, this is well over 20 years ago, turn of the century. I was, I'd never really been to the Dr. Shannon. I'd been for some injuries, a motorcycle sports, and had some dental work done, but I never really went to the doctor. And so when people came into our office where I started working, working again with just sole intention is to help people. Yeah. To, to and, and myself make sure nothing happened to me. I just couldn't believe that they'd, they'd already been to six or eight or 10 or whatever, you know, practitioners that weren't better yet.

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And one day I was out riding my motorcycle and enjoying my freedom and health, health freedom you know, time freedom, just, just really into my freedom. And and I thought, you know what? This is hoor. This is, I can't believe what's going on. I'm gonna go back to that office and I'm gonna be the last person that people need to see to get well, to take control of their health and get well. So functional diagnostic nutrition that I didn't coin that phrase for another 10 years. You know, I spent 10 years in that office, and my claim to fame is I mean, I got all these certifications, all these board things, you know, nutrition and otherwise never became a doctor. But, but I spent 10 years in that office running labs, thousands and thousands of labs on thousands of people.

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Everyone coming in the office, got some labs, <laugh>, no, at first I didn't know what I was doing, but I was doing a lot of it, and I was making discoveries. And then flash, you know, fast forward 10 years, I was asked to teach, you gotta teach what you're doing. Re we were getting amazing results, never diagnosing and treating anything specifically like doctors do. That's what, that's what their job is. My job was, I don't care about that. I'm here to find out what's really wrong with you. You know, what is it? Your hormones, your immune system, digestion, detoxification, energy production, the nervous system balance. And I became kind of a expert on running the labs on all those things and identifying what the healing opportunities are like. And, and when I explained the lab work to the, to the customer, <laugh>, they were blown away.

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They're like, oh my God, no one ever taught me this before. My, my doctor said, nothing's wrong with me. Or, or, you know, something was wrong with me and here's your pill for it. And so mm-hmm. <Affirmative> when I got asked to teach by a lot of different people they said, you're, you're doing great there in your clinic, Reid, but if you would teach other practitioners how to do this, you could, you could help a lot more people. And that became my new passion, was, well, how many people could we help? If I deputize like, you know, you're taking the FDN course I had to call it something <laugh>. Yeah. I didn't know what to call it. I was just a nutrition guy, you know, as a certified nutritional therapist, personal trainer, all these other certifications things. But I didn't know what to call it.

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So it just occurred to me, it's functional. It's all about how you're functioning. It's, there's no diagnosis. But di we use diagnostic tools, we use it, it's diagnostic in nature. So functional diagnostic, and then nutrition, because I couldn't call it medicine, you know, I, I probably would've called it something else. But anyway, that's what I called it 20 years ago. And, and it stuck. And so it's f d n, everyone knows f d n, there's 4,000 f d n practitioners around the globe, and we need about 40,000 more, and we'll solve everyone's problems, you know?

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Yeah, yeah. Well, and I, I mean, I mentioned off camera that I've loved this course because of the capabilities and the amount of information and data that I am able to get from my clients. And, and the way in which we work with people is so much different than what I was taught prior to all of this. So everybody knows my story, but I'll just do a quick recap of it. Yeah. I was pretty healthy. I grew up in a very healthy home. My parents, we ate meat, veggies both my parents were a very active, my dad in his fifties, sixties was doing competitive, you know, weightlifting competitions and pretty intimidating guy for, for most people, <laugh>. Most of the guys that I dated, which was great cuz it scared off the losers <laugh> <laugh>. And, you know, my mom always took care of herself and I was, so after my second baby, I was experiencing fatigue, puffiness, inflammation.

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I wasn't able to lose the weight as quickly as my first one. And then the third baby came around and tons of hormonal issues still puffy, weight fatigue, all of the things. The doctor was my, my naturalpathic doctor was like, nothing's wrong with you, you just have anxiety. And I'm like, this is not anxiety. <Laugh>. Yeah. And, and little did I know until later I was experiencing mold toxicity and, you know, all of these other things that were leading to this chaos that was happening in my body. But essentially what was happening is all my labs were normal. I was being told everything was normal and I didn't feel normal. That wasn't my normal.

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Yeah, yeah. I totally get it.

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So I want to kind of switch gears and talk about that metabolic chaos that I feel like so many of us get trapped in <laugh> and when we're told things are normal.

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Oh, sure. So, you know, all those years in the clinic thousands of people I ran labs for and but I wasn't allowed to, you know, I'm not a physician. You can't diagnose and treat any one thing. You're supposed to look for the root cause. So I spent those 10 years looking for the root cause and here's what I found out. There's never just one. Yeah, there's always multiple causal factors. Sometimes they're very far upstream as you know, Shannon, from the training. They're so far away from where it's manifesting that you, you wouldn't even look there if you didn't know to look there. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So, so I discovered this pattern and and not only are there multiple causal factors, they're having an effect upon each other that hardly anyone is ever is considering. You know, if you have a hormonal issue, well that's gonna affect the immune system.

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If an immune system problem, believe it or not, that breaks down to poor digestion. You know, cuz you, you don't have the microbiome balance that you need for good digestion. Well, that's gonna affect eventually detoxification. You're gonna get leaky gut and now your liver gets congested and on and on. So these, there's always multiple causal factors. They're having an effect on each other, and it creates what we call metabolic chaos. So root cause, yeah, keep looking. It's always a good thing. You're not gonna find ones and sometimes you won't even find it mm-hmm. <Affirmative> because it's so far away from where it's manifesting. But that doesn't matter because we can have an effect upon it by just following the right lifestyle. The, our, our holistic program lifestyle program, it has an effect on every cell, every tissue, organ and system in the body.

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And so, so whatever the root cause is or was, it's gonna get handled even if we didn't identify, no, that doesn't mean we don't run labs. And we try to identify, again, it's, you, you know, the hidden acronym, it's H I D D E N, hormone immune digestion, detoxification, energy production, and nervous system balance. So those are the six areas you could throw in oxidative stress and some other, some other labs. But, but those areas are what I've found. That's the pattern I recognize that just helps every woman walking in the door. And we had men too, but it was mostly women that were driving the practice at the wellness center. They're, they're the ones that cared about their health. They were coming in for chiropractic and acupuncture and nutrition and holistic lifestyle. But it's the, the labs open, the, the gateway for me to, to really help people. And so I just called all metabolic chaos. And I don't use hand, like what doctors do is they, they diagnose and if your blood work says, oh, everything looks normal, well there's no diagnosis, you just have anxiety

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<Laugh> mm-hmm. <Affirmative>,

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You know, it's all in your head. And that's just such a silly assumption.

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Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I've been dealing with this anxiety since I was a kid. <Laugh>. Yeah. Like, I promise this is not the issue that's going on.

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And, and their solution is, here's your pill. Yeah. You know, or, or if they can diagnose that, that, see that's a diagnosis. Anxiety patient came in, has this complaint, that complaint, this complaint, that complaint says, so diagnosis, anxiety, as if that somehow answers their question. And then there's a pill for that. You know, so they've kind of done their job. They, they were supposed to find a diagnosis. They did, they wrote a prescription, which is standard of care and everyone's happy. Right? No <laugh>, the patient's not happy. So that's where they, how that's how they were when they came for me. They've been through the mill and weren't happy. And my job was to make 'em happy. Well, yes. We gotta do some digging.

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Yeah. Yeah. And I, I love I love using the hidden method. I love using the dress program essentially. So why don't we just talk about what is the dress program? Because I feel like I, I maybe you guys have seen these memes on, you know, the Facebook, Instagram, or maybe it's just my feed cuz that's what I'm interested in. But I see this quote that's going around that says something like, if your doctor isn't asking you about your water intake, your sleep how many vegetables you're eating per day, then you need a new one, essentially. And so let's, I, I wanna kind of dive into what I believe is really important for us to address, which is the dress program. So why don't you explain what that is in those, I guess, what is that six areas? Five, five areas?

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<Laugh>, yeah. D R E S S. So that's a good question, Shannon, and thank you. Because that's the what to do. So we first have to know, you know, what's wrong? What, what are the healing opportunities we have to sort out the metabolic chaos and, and that way we can give people something to do to fix it. That was the other thing. I, I knew it even when I first started was I can't get out a prescription pad. I'm not a doctor. And guess what? No one wants to take that crap anyway, so, so we, I found over all this thousands of labs, thousands of people, long period of time that H I D D E and hormone immune digestion, detoxification, energy production, nervous system, and there's more. But that, that's a good place to start. If we could identify the healing opportunities there, then we can give you something to do.

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But again, it isn't here, take this pill, come back in three months and we'll check the paper and see how you're doing. That's treating the paper. So it was, what are the patients or clients am I gonna do between their visits? So I started doing you know, exercise programs. I became a personal trainer and, and other things, and eventually came up with D R E S S diet. Find the right diet for your genetics. It's not that hard to do. Really get on the right food. The, the, the, there's a food program for you as an individual. It's not the same as even for your brother or sister or mother or father or, so you have your own unique dietary requirements and they're genetically programmed. There's no way to get around it. You eat right, you'll be fine, you eat wrong. You're not gonna be, you will pay the piper. And so, so d is diet and Rs rest. And I didn't say sleep because there's lots of ways to rest your emotions and your mind and, and even during the day. So sleep is important, but, so it's diet, rest, exercise, which goes without saying kind of for today's discussion. And then the two S's, d r e, diet, rest, exercise, stress reduction and supplementation and stress reduction is so huge. You've heard that word before, right? Shannon? Stress

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Maybe once or twice

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<Laugh>. So people think stress is just, they don't like their job or their kids are misbehaving or they're, they got spousal or financial or, you know, some other stress. But stress is anything that upsets the apple cart. It could be physical. Me personally, I don't have much stress my life unless I create it myself. I've hurt myself. I have just got a very well used body. So all my sort of activities, the, the sports and I'm talking about surfing and wrestling and football and skiing and lots of, lots of sort of opportunities to, to damage my body. So that's stress too. If you have unresolved pain and aches and things that's stressful, your body responds the same way as if it was getting, whether you get yelled at that's stressful, your boss hates you, whatever. Or physical pain from interest and the assaults from the environment.

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Remember I started in environmental law long time ago. I know how bad the environment is. And so there's all these chemicals and biochemicals and your body even makes biotoxins and things. All of that is stressful. So you have these multiple stress. So when I talk about diet, rest, exercise, stress reduction is maybe even the widest, broadest area to look at. And then supplementation. Cuz food just isn't good enough. Food, food is just not the quality. It was when I was a kid. My grandfathers, both of them grew their own food up in Canada. So I, I know I got a lot of nutrient dense, really good nutrition when I was younger. My mom ate it. She's 92 years old and she's doing great. You know why? Because nutrition was in genetics, a big part of it. So diet risk, exercise, stress reduction and supplementation is our magic formula for everything. It doesn't treat any one thing. It treats everything, every cell, every tissue, every organ, every system in the body. The entire organism just improves as you apply the principles of healing in that formula. And so that way we're not practicing medicine we're just practicing good behavior. Currently, the principles of health building are embodied in those five habits.

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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I, I love your story with your mom. I feel like, I mean, I, all of my grandparents died super young in her sixties. I don't even know if any of them got, well, I guess my grandpa got to his seventies. But on my husband's side, grandma Lou is, she's 99 in April. She's gonna be a hundred years old. Oh my God. She still golfs. She lives alone. She's able to take care of herself and everything. And a lot of that comes from exactly what you're saying. They grew their own food growing up. She is very active. She practices good rest. She has good stress management, and she's overall very happy in the way that she cares for herself in her body. And it, it shows, you know, she's not dying of old age, more or less <laugh>.

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Yeah, when did the light, we'll just go out for her? And that's the way you want it to be. You know, you don't want to be like a, a riostat where you get dimmer and dimmer and dimmer and dimmer. You know, you just want to be like a candle. Candles have the same luminescence when they're lit as they do at the end, the right before the, they flick her and go out. They're, they're burning just as brightly. And that's the kind of theory behind longevity, the way it, the way it should be. And one day you're just gonna, lights are just gonna go out and you'll be, and you'll be happy. You mentioned the most important thing. She's happy, she probably chooses to be happy. She gets up in the morning with the right attitude, you know, and, and it's really something you can control, you know, as your, your your point of view.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and grandma has not, her life, I wouldn't say has been easy by any means, but she chooses to be happy. She had four kids, you know, her husband I think he was 60, 61, 62, died from cancer. She lost two of her other kids in tragic ways. She had four kids total. Two of 'em she lost early and premature. But I mean, she's been able to look on the bright side of things. So it's, I mean, all of that to say you can choose happiness in the midst of, I don't know,

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Stress

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Overwhelm, yeah. Trials. so let's, let's kind of switch again and go to, how common is it for people to have hypothyroidism?

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Oh, well, there's a lot of people with hypothyroidism. Some have hyperthyroidism, some have it for, for certain reasons and some people have it for other reasons. If we just single out, the most common I think there's 30 million women with hypothyroidism. Like, so you're in good company if you have, if you're hypothyroid, what it means is your thyroid gland is not producing the right amount of thyroid hormone. And there's probably a reason for that. So this is one of the first things I looked into obviously. So in, at the turn of the century, 1999, women were coming in the office. It's was just as common then as it is now. The hypo, hypo underactive thyroid, and they call it hypothyroidism. So I, not being a physician, had to look into, well, why, why is your thyroid underactive? And I started running the labs, and what I found was that stress, there's that word again.

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Oh, in all its various forms, will put the body into a adaptive state, you know, a protective state. And it will slow the thyroid down on purpose. Why? Because the thyroid controls metabolism. And so if you're under stress, your body's gonna have a natural inclination to survive and, and thrive. And so it will slow down metabolism to conserve resources again on purpose. So if you're in distress, the, and you're be, you end up hypothyroid. There's nothing wrong with your thyroid. This is, again, the most common type of thyroid issues. There are other, where there is pathology, there, there are people with all kinds of diseases of the thyroid. We're just talking about straight up hypothyroidism, the most common form of thyroid issues. And it's your body slowing down on purpose. Why? To conserve resources. So it's the stress that is what's wrong.

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And I could show you this on paper by running labs. I could show you on an stress and hormone panel exactly what's going on. You can do this too, since you're an f DN practitioner. We, we run the right labs. We go, oh, look, here's, here's what's going on. And when you apply the principles of healing D R E S S to every cell, tissue and organ that includes the thyroid, includes the adrenals, it includes your ovaries, testes if you got 'em, you know, like it, so, so it includes every cell and tissue and organ and system in your body. And so hypothyroidism is very, very common. But don't let anyone tell you we don't know why you have it. You know, we know why you have it. And we know how to reverse it. We know how you can reverse it.

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Me as a practitioner, I don't heal or cure anything. I teach people what they can do to take control. Back to that very first thought I ever had was, you know, all these people not in control of their own health. That's frustrating for me. Yeah. What drives me every day. And now all my practitioners, I've trained 4,000 people and, and many of them are active practitioners and we're just out there helping people to, to liberate we run the labs and teach you what's really wrong and teach you how you could take control and fix it yourself.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I, from what I've seen with the women that I work with, a lot of it has to do with nutrition. So I wanna kind of dive into the nutrition and, and what we're putting into our body because a lot of them, like we've mentioned, they're under stress. They're not sleeping, and they're just grabbing fast, easy, convenient foods, and they're not nourishing their body. So how can we leverage nutrition to optimize our thyroid function and production? And, and how can we maybe make some of those changes to better support our body that way?

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Well, it's something that, that's a really bothered me. No, it's a great question. And it, it just it was one of the things that we had to figure out in the office. So people were coming in and back in the day around the turn of the century, the most popular diet was the Atkins diet. And I read Dr. Atkins book. I thought it was amazing. It was, it was really instructional and I learned so much about about protein and fat and carbs and, and things. But it wasn't enough. And here's why. Cuz I, I just decided, well, the Atkins diet's gonna be our diet. We're gonna put everyone on the Atkins diet. Only three things can happen. When you try a product, try diet, try a routine, you, you try therapy, three things can happen. You feel better. And some people did.

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You feel no change. And it's like, oh, I didn't feel anything different or you feel worse. And that's what I was running into with the Ekins diet. And it would've happened with any diet. Doesn't matter what diet. You try it, you might like it, you might have no, no significant change at all, or you could actually get worse. So I started studying nutrition, like for real, even though I was already a certified nutritional therapist. You know, what they trained us to do was sell supplements for everything. And it, and I didn't like that either. So, so I was in a bookstore and I was reading for free <laugh>. We used to be able to sit there and drink coffee and read books at Borders bookstore. They, that's why they're out of business now. I think. So. So I read, I picked up, I was always in the health section and I picked up a book called Metabolic Typing Diet by Bill Wilcott, William Wilcott.

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And it changed my life. It changed my practice, it changed everything that I do because he explained in that book, genetic requirements are must be met, or you will, his expression, you'll pay the piper. You've heard me say it already, but that was William Wilcott or Bill Wilcots and that book just, it, it's, so it's big thick book. I got it right on my shelf right next to Mihir. Yeah, I've got it right over here too. <Laugh>. Yeah, I can grab it and show it to you. So with all, a lot of other health books, but, but that's the number one. So everybody has genetic requirements for protein, fat, and carb ratios. Your protein, fat and carb ratios. You've gotta get that ratio, right? That's your fuel mixture that produces energy and it, and it on a cellular level that's important.

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Cells don't have to be taught what their job is. They just need to be fed the right ratio of protein, fat, and carbs. Now, for everything else that's going on in the body, you need vitamins, minerals, you need essential fatty acids. You need antioxidants, you need amino acids, you need phytonutrients, you need trace elements. You need all of this nutritional requirements, and that's in your bones. You can't change it. You know, your genes are your genes. You, you can't pick your parents. None of us can, could go back and change who our parents were. So you have inherited from your parents and your great, your grandparents, your great grandparents, and you can go back, you know, probably five or 600 generations to, that's where you got your genetic requirements from. And those people, 500 generations ago or more, they ate certain ratios approaching fat and carbs.

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They, and the, those proteins and fats and carbs were, were based on the nutrients in the soil and in the water and things like that. And so that's what's in your bones, that's your genetic requirements, and you've gotta match it as close as possible to the original formula. Or you will pay the piper. And so we suffer now from horrible, horrible food related conditions from under nourishment, really. And so pretend for a minute that we run a metabolic typing, man pe people can go to empty diet.com and get this test. But, but we'll figure out what those requirements are or pretty close, and then you can play with it after that. But all of that would be assuming that you're actually digesting and breaking down and absorbing and assimilating all these nutrients. So you got two sides of the equation, what to eat. And then you have, am I breaking down, absorbing, and assimilating all of these nutrients. And that's a whole different story. So there's a lot to diet, as you could tell from that brief brief explanation.

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Yes. Yeah. And that's so good. Like, I've had people who eat, probably like most of us a crap diet. You know, they're eating out fast food, they know they shouldn't be doing it, but they are like, I just, I can't, you know, I don't know what else to do kind of deal. So we have that, and then we have people who, I look at their diet, I'm like, this is like perfect. This is ideal. And when I take a step back, I'm like, man, they're eating a ton of veggies. You know, they're eating some meat, they're eating some fat. And once we, like you were saying earlier, tweak some of the ratios of what they're getting in, it's like all of a sudden they're feeling better. They don't have the food cravings that they were having before and they have the sustainable energy.

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And so I know for me personally, I've always done better with higher protein and higher fats and, and lower carbs. When I started my first quote unquote diet many years ago, that was the first time that I had ever really eaten rice or things like that. Cuz I grew up, the way like the plate was built in our home was we had some kind of like animal protein usually. My dad did a lot of hunting and, and things like that. So we had, you know, good quality animal products for the most part. And two veggies. It was like a salad and green beans or, I mean, it was sometimes canned things too, but generally speaking, we didn't eat a high carb I don't know, nutrition, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Diet. And once I started incorporating more of those grains and things, that's when I noticed more fatigue and things. And so I've had to break up with the quote unquote diet industry because many of them say, you know, when you build your plate, you have your meat, your rice, and your broccoli. You know, when I think of a diet, that's typically what I think of as meat diet broccoli. So

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Yeah. And that, that could just be too too, too not the right ratio. So people ought to think about it like this. The way it is is there's protein, which is mostly your meats are the highest quality. Now you can get protein from beans and some, some veg, some vegetables and things, lentils. So peanuts and things like that. Seeds have protein, but meat, meat is the best quality protein, and it generally has fat in it. So you're getting your protein and your fat from the same source. And then you could throw in you need, you need some carbs and the low glycemic index, carbs, you know, like vegetables. Fruits are actually very high in sugar for most people. So you could eat a little bit here and there. But that, that protein and meat and veggies is the perfect diet for a lot of people.

(40:04):

Not for everybody, but it's, what you learn to do is, is eat so that two hours later you have number one satiation, you should not be craving anything. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So if you have cravings, it's, it's your diet now, so you should be fully satiated. It's called satiety. It's, it's a, something that comes from food. You're satiated. The other thing is you should have really good, strong energy, like enough to do work or play or thinking and, and like get to the next meal. You've fueled the tank and you have enough energy to, you're satiated, no cravings, and you get to the next meal with a full, you know, fulfilling and lots of energy, real high quality energy, not nervous energy. And the last thing, believe it or not, is actually a sense of wellbeing. So all three of these things, satiety, satiation your energy, good quality energy, not nervous energy and sense of wellbeing come from food.

(41:19):

And I'm not talking about mood food, I'm talking about protein, fat and carbs in the right ratios. And you should know, you should pay attention. And the, the, you know, we have a test that we do that will tell you where to start. Here's the, here's a ratio for you to start with, and you're still gonna have to fine tune it. People look, you, you can't just, you know, say you're a fast oxidizer, you're, you're a parasympathetic dominant or so, and here's the diet for you. No, you, you start there, but then you tweak it a little bit. You add in a little more carbs or you add in a little more protein or fat and, and you adjust it. And that's, that's your genetic requirements there. It still doesn't get you all the trace elements and minerals and vitamins. You're probably gonna have to supplement some of that because food just isn't the same qualities it used to be.

(42:13):

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Well, thank you Reid. So happy to have you on. Let's wrap this up. And I am going to link all of your sh all of your information in the show notes. Okay. But I know you gave me a code really quickly to go over if people are interested in the F D N course learning more, doing what I do, doing what you do, what doing what we do you can go to fdn training.com/thriving thyroid. And I don't know, do they get a deal or what is, what does that,

(42:55):

We'll put that in your show notes and we'll talk to your listeners. There's no obligation. You just wanna go to fdn training.com/thriving thyroid and we'll know that they're a friend of yours and we'll take really good care of 'em. Yeah,

(43:11):

Awesome. Perfect.

(43:12):

We'll just give 'em the information they need and, and that's, that's what people want. They want good, solid information. They don't wanna be BS or sold anything or told. There's nothing wrong with you. You just have anxiety <laugh>.

(43:29):

Yeah,

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We won't

(43:30):

Do that. Absolutely. All right. So all of this stuff will be in the show notes you guys can check out. And you are on the, on Instagram and LinkedIn everywhere, right?

(43:45):

Yeah, we got all that. I'm not the tech expert. Okay. <Laugh>, you know, I, I built my whole business back then with a pager and a fax machine, and it was fine. You know, I did very, very well for myself and all my clients. Everybody was happy. Now we've got all this, this stuff you know, but I do miss my Blackberry. I thought those were pretty cool <laugh>. But yeah, so I'm not the tech guy, but I, I have really amazing people around me that again, thousands of people have taken the course and they bubble up. They, Hey, I wanna help, I wanna work for you. So we have 35 FDN practitioners working for me. You know, like, it, it's, it's a, it's an amazing operation and again, you go to fdn fdn training.com slash thriving thyroid. And thank you so much, Shannon, for having me on. Really appreciate talking to you and your listeners.

(44:46):

Yeah, absolutely. We'll see you guys on the next,

(44:49):

Okay. See you later. Bye.

(44:52):

Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming masterclass on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake. I'm also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(45:59):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I will see you on the next

(46:35):

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Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

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(00:00):

How can I, that's a question we should all be asking ourselves. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Handsome Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all.

(01:09):

Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envisioned for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, you guys with your host Shannon Hanson. Let's dive in. And this one is going to be a short one and a good one. So we are talking about how can I, the thought process between how can I, and I've had tons of experiences over the last, like week or two. And this one is just, it's nagging me, <laugh>. It is just something that is constantly showing up for me in different areas. And so to set the tone for this and or one of the things that has really sparked this, so I've read several books where they talk about not saying I can't do that.

(02:14):

I don't have enough money, I don't have enough time, I don't, you know, whatever, fill in the blank, right? Like that scarcity mindset, they talk about how can I reframing that? And I have a person in my life that it drives me freaking bonkers. You guys, it drives me. Like, if you wanna get under my skin, I'm gonna tell you <laugh> right now. So this particular person, they make probably $500,000 plus a year, and they live in a big, beautiful million dollar home. They drive nice cars, they have boats. They go on vacation, they have rental properties, they have a second home. Like they, they do very well for themselves, right? Financially, and I'm not in, in the details of their day-to-day finances and living and cost and whatever. Cuz quite frankly, I don't care <laugh> that's not any of my business, but it would drive me, it does drive me bonkers when I would invite this person to do something that would maybe cost, I don't know, 20, 30 bucks, right? Maybe go to the movies or go to lunch or dinner and a movie. Yeah. You know, whatever. And they would say to me that I don't have money. Oh, that's really expensive. You know, there, like, it was, it's really more of that I don't have money. And I'm like, you don't have $20. Like I just saw your, your Instagram story where you went to Target and you spent $500. Like what? <Laugh>,

(04:07):

Right? And I know, I know that they really do have money, okay? Like it's an unspoken thing, but 20, $30, even a hundred dollars isn't as big of a deal for them as other things. Okay? And I would come home and I would tell my husband, I'm like, why can't they just tell me it's not a priority for them? Maybe going to lunch or doing this thing isn't as big of a priority for them, and that is a hundred percent okay, right? It is a hundred percent to be like, eh, I don't, I don't really care to spend my money that way. I totally get that. Like, there's stuff that other people prioritize. And I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't spend my money on that. And I could give you a million examples right now, but that's not the point of the podcast <laugh>, okay? And so, but there are, like, we live in really such an incredible time in the world where there is money, there is abundance, even in the midst of recession.

(05:19):

Okay, you guys, I don't get into like politics. I don't talk money. I don't talk this stuff on my podcast, okay? But we're all feeling the effects of the recession and, and things in different ways, right? Like whether it be our grocery bills or just, oh, maybe I'm not gonna do this, or like, I'm sure you've all noticed different things happening in your life, okay? So we'll leave it at that. And over the years I have adopted a different mindset and this really came, so that story that I told you, you about that other person where I'm like, blah. Like, why can't you just say it's not a priority? For me it came from reading some of these books. So things like the Jackrabbit Factor or the Portal to Genius or Three Feet From Gold, or The Richest Man in Babylon, like, oh, oh, there was actually a couple other ones where they either talk about it or inadvertently talk about this principle of how can I, how can I, if it is something that is really important to you, how can I, and this is something that I had to switch and myself, I I would say things for a long time like this other person, and I think that's why it got under my skin so much where it was like, I don't have enough time.

(06:47):

I don't have enough money, I don't have enough hours in the day. I don't have enough of this. I don't have enough of that. Like, I was always finding the lack in my life. And through these books and through changing my mindset, I now approach things in a much different way. And I did not ask my husband permission to share this, but I, I think, I think he'll be okay with it. <Laugh> maybe I'll, I'll double check with him. Before I push. I was gonna say record, no, push it like out into the world. Publish. That's the word that I meant to say. Okay, before I hit publish and make sure he's okay with this. So my husband's had a truck for like, the entire time we've been married, we've been married for like 15 years. We bought it used, obviously, and we've ha like it was his dad's old truck.

(07:41):

And we would take it out on dates and like, we have had this truck for so long and it's over 20 years old now. It's an old truck. And it got to the point where we were having to like, do repairs on the truck, which thankfully my husband can do pretty regularly. And I point, like, we started having conversations where I was like, you know, I know it's paid off, but you're having to spend time and money every single month. That is sometimes more than what a car payment would be, sometimes less. And so at the end of the year, it might just be better for us to get a new car, right? Something that is reliable, something that you're not gonna have to fix. Something that you get in start the car and you can go and you know that it's gonna <laugh> it's going to perform for you.

(08:38):

And so we started having those kinds of conversations and my husband's like, ah, you know, I just don't want a car payment. You know, we've been very blessed for a lot of years to not have car payments. So the idea of going back and having a car payment is like, oh man, like <laugh>, you know, know, and all the while my in-laws are preparing to get rid of his truck. My father-in-law's truck. And so he's like, Hey, if you, you know, if you want my truck, you guys can have first dibs kind of deal. And long story short, we talked about it and I just, I was like, I told my husband, I just think, I think you should get it. Like, you have not done anything like this for yourself in a very long time. And I think, I think it's time. I think you ha we have your great truck, but we also need something a little bit different for our family.

(09:36):

Whatever, you know, all of the conversations we weighed out, the good and bad. Well, in the process of it, we did not wanna take money out of our savings to pay for it because we were in the place of like, prices are going up and there's a lot of uncertainty. And so pulling money out of savings didn't feel like the right thing to do either. And so we had this conversation of how can I, or how can we, and we let those questions sit and fester, and I was gonna say mold, I don't want 'em to be moldy <laugh>. And we mold over them. And we started looking for resourceful ways to not increase our cost of living, which is going to be inevitable if you are, if you don't have a car payment and you acquire a car payment, even if the car payment is 40 bucks a month, like you're still acquiring a higher cost of living.

(10:44):

And so we started looking for like, how can we, how can we, what are other ways that we can cut back or you know, how can we be resourceful? How can we, how can we make this happen at the end of the day? How can we make this happen? We feel like this is the right thing for our family. How can we, how can we, how can we, how can we? And thankfully we had like a month or two, maybe even three months to kind of figure this out. Well, in the intermediate time we had an opportunity, and this is a very unconventional opportunity to, to come up. And so in our area, it was about monsoon season time. So in Arizona we get these big storms and we had a really big storm with some microbursts and a, a little my kids call 'em village <laugh> villages.

(11:40):

They little like neighborhoods close by us. They <laugh>, I'm, we call 'em villages because my daughter, when she was like three years old, started called calling them villages. So I might just say that. So this little village, over 300 trees fell down. And so the city had to call in tree removal services and whatever, right? And one day on the way to work, and this was not on my husband's mind when this happened, we have been looking, so we garden and we've been looking for chips, like wood chips and if you like, in a lot of areas they do chip drops where they'll cut down wood or like clean somebody's yard up or whatever, and then you can sign up and they'll come drop it at your house for free. And so we were looking at that, we'd been on like two registries for like over six months and we're like, ah, you really want this?

(12:41):

So my husband calls the company on his way to work and he is like, Hey you know, what are you guys planning to do? Would you be willing to drop a load off at my house? You know? And the guy was like, oh yeah, you know, we take it 45 minutes away to dump it in a landfill. And he's like, if you're around the corner, yeah, we'll, we'll, you know, dump it. And my husband's like, well, if you wanna dump a couple loads there, it's totally fine. You know, we've got about four acres and anyways, set up this whole process. And the guy was like, wow, this is really great, really convenient. He could have his guys work, drop it off, and like, they could get more done, right? Like, this guy was making more money because he is not having to pay like a dumping fee.

(13:27):

He's not having to pay for the fuel, he's not having to pay for his workers to sit in the truck. You know, like it made really good sense for him. So we called my husband back and he is like, Hey, do you mind if we drop off a few more loads? Well, we ended up getting like 30 loads, you guys, and I'm talking like big honking loads, not like a wheelbarrow, okay? And long story short, my husband ding, ding, ding has this brilliant idea, and he is like, what if I sell them? What if I sell these wood chips? And, you know, people want, like, some people are scared to do chip drops because they live in a neighborhood and they only want, you know, a couple wheelbarrows full. And anyways, so as we thought about it, we were like, yeah, cool. And in all honesty, you guys, we ha my husband has posted it, you know, for a really good deal on Facebook, and I don't know wherever he, he's taking charge of that.

(14:29):

Well, we paid for part of our Christmas with the money that we made, and this month and next month we have been able to make our truck payment for, for free, essentially, not for free. <Laugh>, my husband's still, you know, taking deliveries and whatever, but when he called, so this guy and my husband went back and forth and my husband ultimately went with, went to him and the guy was like, Hey, can we drop off more loads? And my husband's like, yeah, that's totally fine. I think I'm gonna sell some of these wood chips. Would you like a cut of it? And the guy was like, no, like <laugh>, I don't wanna deal with that kind of deal. And my husband was like, okay, great. You know, but so we tried to be ethical and honest and you know, like why we're taking these wood chips.

(15:21):

And it's amazing to me how when we allow ourselves to think how can I, things will come in. And I've had clients, you guys, so, and, and part of the reason I bring this up is I have had clients who are on disability, one income, single income, they have found a way to work with me or work with someone else, right? Like, it, it doesn't even matter me specifically. Like, I'm, I'm not saying that. And there's other people who have dual income. And kind of going back to my, one of my original stories where I've had people, they, they've told me what they do. They've told me they have, you know, a second home, they have a lake house and jet skis, and they do that during summer, whatever. So I assume financially I shouldn't that they do at least. Okay? You know, and a couple hundred dollars a month for their health isn't going to like, make or break the bank.

(16:32):

And they have told me I don't have money for that. And I'm like, what a better way of saying that is. It's not a priority to me right now. And so I want you guys to really stomp and think about what is holding you back from anything in your life, whether that be health and working with somebody and finding answers and solutions and, and getting off medication, or if it's really not a priority for you. Both answers are a hundred percent okay? There's no right or wrong. It's really about what is right for you. But I don't want money to be an obstacle. I want you to be resourceful. I want you to start to adapt the mindset of how can I, can I get a part-time job for six months to pay for this? Can I babysit for, you know, a couple times a, a month to, to make some extra income? Can I sell CI minerals? Can I sell stuff that's piled up in my garage that I haven't looked at or touched in 20 years or 15 years or whatever so that I can pay for something that matters and means more to me, <affirmative>.

(18:08):

Anyways, I just, I want you guys, what do I want from this conversation? I want you to just be honest with yourself. I want you to really evaluate what is important to you with, to you, and find ways to get what you really want, regardless of what obstacle is in the way, whether it be financial, whether it be physical, whether it be mental, whether it be some kind of external source. And I know a lot of y the listeners out there are Christian, and so I'm gonna bring this in. You guys know I'm Christian. God wants you to thrive. He wants you to have the desires of your heart, plain and simple. Like if you want something, he will bring it to you. And those are some of the things that I have learned in the jackrabbit factor in the portal to genius in three feet from gold.

(19:07):

Like the world God universe is conspiring in your favor, in your favor. And I know this to be true. I have experienced it time and time and time and time and time again in my life. And sometimes it's not always what I think I want sometimes. And most of the time it is way better than I ever imagined, but I allow those things to come to me. And I I ask myself, how can I, how can I, I have manifested some crazy stuff in my life, you guys. I've got a $3,000 sauna in Fred sauna out in my garage that we use, and I got it for free because I, and I, okay, so let me tell you guys a quick story. So I wanted this sauna. I had been looking at them, I'm like, I want this sauna. I want this sauna. I think it'd be so great to have an infrared sauna.

(20:10):

I want like these three, $4,000 saunas, but I don't wanna spend that kind of money. Like, I would only wanna spend $500, right? Like, that was my <laugh>, that was my budget. Because they have like those pop-up portable ones that I think are like under $500 or something. And it's like, I don't want that. Like I want a real sauna. Okay? So funny story, I know someone who had a sauna and their sauna broke and they called the company and it was gonna be $500 to replace it. And for them it wasn't a priority. They said we just, just don't want it. Let's get it out of the house. And I was talking to this person and they're like, yeah, we're just gonna like take it to Goodwill or whatever. And I was like, well, I would take it <laugh>. And she's like, well, you know, you'd have to spend $500 to fix it, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, sold, sold you guys. Thankfully my husband fixed it for free. There's something right now that I think we might have to buy a piece to like fix it, fix it. But the universe, God, they want you to have those things. I could tell you probably a million more stories like that. And so allow yourself to think how can I and see what is possible for you. And I'll see you guys on the next.

(21:36):

Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming masterclass on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake. I'm also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(22:43):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to this show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I will see you on the next

(23:19):

Way before you you go. Please subscribe if you found value in today's episode. Leave us a review and share on Instagram and please tag us. We love your yes, please.

 

130 // How do thyroid antibodies impact women's infertility with English

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Register for our upcoming Masterclass. 3 Overlooked Secrets to help Heal Your Thyroid

March 13th 2023, @ 10:30pm MST

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English is a Functional Nutritional Therapy Practitioner who specializes in helping couples conceive the baby of their dreams in the least invasive way possible. She uses the combination of in-depth lab work & the power of targeted nutrition to help couples get down to the root cause of their imbalances & restore their innate ability to conceive a healthy baby.

 

Instgram: @nourishingtreelou

Website: www.thenourishingtreelouisville.com

Email: [email protected]

 

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SHOW NOTES AT 

 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

CONTACT LINKS

 

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

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In today's episode, I'm talking with English, and she is a functional nutrition therapy practitioner who specializes in helping couples conceive a baby of their dreams in the least invasive way possible. She uses a combination of in-depth lab work and the power of targeted nutrition to help couples get down to the root of their imbalances and restore their innate ability to conceive a healthy baby. I hope you guys enjoy this conversation where we're talking about the autoimmune condition and how it affects your thyroid and how it also affects fertility and all of those wonderful things. So buckle up and get ready for an amazing show.

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Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner, and so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Handsome Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

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Welcome back you guys to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. I'm so excited to be having English here with me on today's episode. And we're gonna be talking about fertility and autoimmune issues and how that can relate to your thyroid. So welcome English.

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Hi, Shannon. I'm so excited to be here.

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Yeah, welcome. Give everybody a little bit of background as to who you are, what you do, how you got started, all of the fun things.

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Yes. So I'll try to keep that short. Right. so my background was a BS in psychology, master's in School Counseling. I went that route, decided that system was not for me, backed out of that went Ironman training got a little shy, decided training people, wasn't in the cards for me. Took a little time off, actually ran a live music bar venue here. So totally different scene. Late nights, unhealthy things, that kind of thing. So eventually we took a road trip and I got out in nature and kind of cleared my mind and decided nutrition was for me and that fertility because of a lot of friends and family that had been going through it at the time without getting the help they needed. Just seemed to call my name. So I put them together. I went back to school again, became a functional nutrition, nutritional therapy practitioner. Went on to become board certified in holistic nutrition, and I've probably taken so many courses since then. Just adding more and more knowledge and power to what we do. And it's all kinda history from there.

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Yeah, that's so awesome. And I love the industry of like helping women conceive babies. Obviously I have four and I must like them <laugh> a little bit. Yes, I must like them. But I remember, like for me, going back to, so I had babies young, I was right before I turned 22 is when I had my first baby. And I just remember feeling that deep call to be a mom and this deep sense of like, responsibility. And here's kind of a funny story for you guys. My husband was like, no, no, no. Like we have, we've been dating since I was 17, so we've been together for a long time. And I was like, it's time to have a baby. Just all of these things. And he was like, no way. Like, we haven't traveled, we haven't done all these things. Like, you know, what is the rush kind of deal?

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And anyways, long story short, I remember sitting on his lap and we were in the office and I was talking to him and he was like, Nope. And I was like, okay, how about we make a deal? I made him sign a contract, you guys <laugh>, to start having a baby. This was like, it must have been March because, or the beginning of March-ish time. And the deal was we would start trying to have a baby in October and he was like, okay, you can go off your birth control, but we won't start trying to have a baby until October. I got pregnant right away. And <laugh>

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He was, he went,

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I, I guess I won. Yeah. But <laugh>, he was like, when I told him, he just looked at me like, oh my gosh, like what is even happening right now? He was, I, I think he was more in shock than anything. And then the other kids, he was much more excited. But it's kind of a funny story. <Laugh>,

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And he signed the contract?

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Yeah, he did. Oh, okay. He signed, I mean, it was on like a white piece of like a printer, paper <laugh>. Cause like we are going to start trying to have a baby October, no, 2000, what was it, 2010? Maybe I had her 2011. Maybe it was 2009. I don't time is fair. No, we got married in oh nine, so it must have been 10. Okay. <Laugh>. Anyways, and it was just, it's just kind of a funny story about all of that. And I, I've known when all of my kids were gonna come. So anyways, I love, fun, a fun journey. And so anyways, all of that to say is like my heart goes out to the women who are struggling with infertility and obviously I think all of us know a friend, a family member or even yourself who have struggled with fertility and the loss of a baby, miscarriages, all of those different things. So I, I love this industry and I love how natural and also how affordable it is, at least to try before going to I V F and all of those things. And I'm sure you could speak into that <laugh>.

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Yes. Right. <Laugh> this. So my whole business model and, and honestly, even if you still find that you need to go through I V F and IIS for whatever reason, whether it's anatomical or just health issues still spending the time to do all the holistic type things and getting your thyroid in the right place and getting your nutrition in the right place and anti inflaming your body, I mean, it's gonna go so far to help the next generation be healthy as well mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, which isn't always thought about. Yes. So it's, I think there's a benefit no matter how you end up conceiving.

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Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I was reading in one of, I Like You, I've taken tons of different classes, <laugh>, I think it was a herbal class when I was getting certified in herbal medicine. And it was interesting cuz they posed the question of where does health begin? And I was like, upon conception, you know, kind of thing. Well, in the book it talks about two to three generations back and how the mom, like, we have all of our eggs. So the health of our body dictates the health of the eggs and the health of our children. And when you think, hopefully I'm explaining this correctly, but like when you have a baby girl, all of her sexual organs are fully developed inside the mom. So in a weird way, you're carrying your grandchildren. So it really affects just everything. Yeah,

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Yeah. Well, I mean, so there's a lot of layers to that rate. I mean, the chemicals that you're coming in contact with when you're pregnant have an effect on the daughter or the son that you're pregnant with their fertility later. Right. And the next generation so the organs are developing, but they found that a lot of the epigenetic changes, right. So whether you're undereating or overeating in extreme situations has, they've seen those changes last for six generations. I mean it's, I know, and those were like extreme cases, right. But I mean, it's, it's, we just don't think about it all the time, right. We're, we're focused on get pregnant, that's what I wanna do. And it's, you know, we can have this conversation just shift it to setting the next couple generations up for health and to success.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I, I love that about taking care of your nutrition even prior to conceiving. I think one of the things that if I would have, you know, gone back when I was on birth control I would've taken a prenatal, you know, because the, the birth control, the hormonal birth control will deplete the same nutrients that you need for Yeah. Or how am I trying to say that? You could probably say that better.

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Yeah, no, yeah, you're, yeah, I mean, you're totally on the right track, right? The birth control is depleting the nutrients that you need for, for health really. But yeah, for conceiving and having a healthy baby, things like that, they don't tell you, they

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Don't tell you, they

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Don't tell you the risk of it. They don't tell you the nutrients you're lo losing. I mean it's, Hey, <laugh> kinda sets me on fire. Yeah. To think about the disservice that it's doing. Yeah. Just so many women everywhere.

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Yep. Well, and just to kind of add this in, I know a lot of the listeners have like, let's just say kids that are getting ready to go into high school or whatever, and whatever your choice is, if you choose to put 'em on birth control, if you do put 'em on a prenatal, you know, help, help them stay healthy anyways. Okay. I'm going off on a

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No, I would say

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About

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Informed choices, right? Informed choices. Yes. As long as you, we are given all the information that is out there, then make whatever choice best for you. There's no judgment in that. Just we should be able to have that information. <Laugh> Yes. First.

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Yes. Absolutely. All right. So let's kind of shift gears <laugh> Yes. And go into what would lead a couple to suspect autoimmunity and thyroid as part of their fertility journey.

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Yep. So it can be a little tricky just because as I'm sure you're very well versed, you know, that first stage of autoimmunity is pretty silent. So if we're not testing for those antibodies, you might not know it's there, there, I mean, you're not really gonna have a lot of symptoms. But I would definitely say, you know, if the male has low sperm count, even though the autoimmunity is typically kind of rare in males, it's still worth looking into. As far as a female goes. You know, if you're having low basal body temperatures and you're temping your cycle and you have low temps, if your ludial phase is short if you have cold extremities, if, if you're having early pregnancy losses known low progesterone, those kind of things. And it's super easy to look into. So, yeah,

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Let, I wanna back up because I haven't talked about basal temperatures Yeah. On the podcast. So are you okay, just kind of Yeah. Briefly diving into Yeah. Benefits of that and how someone would track that.

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Yeah. so super cool once you get into it and once you like get in the habit, which, I mean there's, there's devices that make it super simple, right? So you can either use a BB teeth thermometer that's five, $10, or you can get like an Ava wristband or a temp drop. For me personally, it was worth paying up for the devices just because you wear them, you sync them, you're not forgetting anything, it's accurate. But you could still do it for 10 bucks. So as soon as you wake up in the morning, generally same time every morning you would take your temperature, you warm the thermometer up in your mouth for five minutes, let it stabilize, take your temp before you get outta bed. Cuz once we start moving right, we, our metabolic rate starts to go up and it starts to change.

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So we wanna take out those variables. So you just lay there very still. Maybe you can meditate while you're doing it. I don't know. We all probably need to do a little gratitude in the morning anyways before we get stressed out. So you just take your temp and then you're just gonna chart it. And then as you chart you should ideally see a, you know, half temp full degree type change from your period to ovulation and then ovulation to your period again or pregnancy. There should be a, a biphasic pattern. You can use it to prevent pregnancy. You can use it to predict your fertile window, confirm that ovulation happened. You can spot thyroid issues with it like we talked about. You can see how stress traveling alcohol affects and, and it changes your temperature. So not just for fertility, right? It's Yeah. It's a window into our health that is basically free.

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Yeah. Yeah. I have a one that syncs up to my phone and I used to do really good at <laugh> checking it all the time. And then the more kids and the more my morning got a little crazy and chaotic, I'm like, I don't have minutes to lay here. I need a <laugh>. Yep. Well, and if you have,

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If you have a new little one and you're not, you know, cuz you do, you're supposed to sleep for at least four hours straight before you take your temp in. Yeah. You're probably not doing that <laugh> and, and maybe you are sometimes, but, and it's, but it's to be expected if you're not. Yeah. so, you know, sometimes temping first thing after having a baby or while you're pregnant, it just kind of falls off the radar and that's fine. Yeah. But it's been taken care of

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Permanently at this point.

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Oh, well then there you go.

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You should be good. <Laugh>. Technically my husband hasn't been cleared, but we, you know, anyways,

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<Laugh>, you never know. Not

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You never know. I'm like, I would be the one to get pregnant, but nope. It happens <laugh>. Anyways, so yes, I love that basil testing your basal temperature can be really beneficial in helping to dictate some of those first signs. And I love the saying that your, your menstrual cycle is the sixth vital sign because there's so much that you guys can tell with your cycle, with your cervical fluid, you know? Yeah. All of all of those interesting things that they don't teach you

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Taught. Yes, exactly. I didn't find out these things until I was like 32 or something. I mean, it's <laugh> and I've talked to somebody the other day that was like, yeah, I didn't find out any of this until I was 48. I'm like, ah, see Yeah. We should have been taught this in elementary

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School. Yeah. When they're giving me the whole sex talk and all of the, like, I mean, we're, we're, as women, I think we are grossly under, I don't know what the right word is. I'm gonna say service in, in terms of understanding how our body works Yeah. And what we can do. Like I didn't, I did not know that there were four phases to my menstrual cycle. I taught, I was taught you have ovulation and you have your period like Yep.

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And you can probably get pregnant every day of the month.

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<Laugh>. Yes, exactly. Yep. Didn't matter.

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Yep. What's, it's just give us some autonomy and some, I don't know, have more faith in us, you

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Know? Yeah, I I'm sure both of us could rant about that. Yes. <Laugh>. So when somebody is suspecting that they're dealing with this, what kind of testing would you recommend to help them get started on their journey?

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Yeah, so if we just wanna start with the thyroid, right? We can test all the thyroid markers, which I'm sure you have gone into in great detail on your podcast. So, you know, not just looking at T S H because what the heck are we just looking at that for? But looking at T P O and TGB antibodies. But then once we confirm that there is low thyroid function or too much thyroid hormone, we gotta kind of figure out why, because sure, the medication can help in the short term, but it's not gonna solve the issue. So then looking at the gut, you know, as first and foremost where I'd go, bacteria, pathogens, viruses, molds, metals, nutrient deficiencies, extra stress, whether it's perceived stress or endogenous stress or anything like that. So many places that we can then start to dive into symptoms help point me in the direction of where we should go. But there's so many things, right? Yes,

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Yes. Absolutely. So if someone let's say, has done all the gut work and my using air quotes and they are not noticing an improvement with their thyroids, so they're taking a probiotic, maybe they've done a cleanse, maybe, you know, whatever, whatever it is. Why would they not see that improvement in like how they're feeling with the fatigue and the symptoms and then also leaning into that fertility aspect?

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Yep. So what I've seen personally with a lot of my clients it's turned out to be mold unfortunately. A lot of the times, I mean we'll do everything right. They're so diligent with their protocols. They're eating clean, eating organic, non G M O, they've done the probiotics and the eradication and the constipation will not go away. They're not getting any better. Their temps are still low, their progesterone's still low, their doctor has upped their medication and doubled it and doubled it, and it's still not getting into the cell. Right? So they're still not feeling great. And it's turned out to be mold, not all the time, but a, a lot of times

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That's so interesting to me because <laugh>, okay, so literally right before I got on to to record this episode with you I had just put, done a functional testing and mold came back up for me. Oh

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No. <Laugh>.

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The two things that I battle with the most is heavy metals and mold and I'll clean them out and then they come back and then like, you know, like

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<Laugh>. Interesting, interesting.

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Yeah. Yeah. And I find that I am just very, very sensitive to mold and I think, so for me, I think there's two factors. One, I lived with my grandma over a summer and she had black mold in her basement. Oh yes. And so we just, we just didn't go into the basement.

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<Laugh> that's common, but I don't suggest that it's, but it's, you, it is common to, I'll just shut the door to the basement and not think about it. But it's, it goes through your air fence and it goes, it's in the couches and the mattresses and it's there.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's there. So I think having that as a child, you know, and I did that I think two summers and then <laugh>, oh my, my gosh, this is so embarrassing to admit. Couple years ago my husband and I rented a house while he was going to school and same kind of issue, like black mold was known to be in this part of the house, but we just didn't go into that part, you know? Yep.

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It's yes.

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And that was really the start of my own thyroid issues. I couldn't lose weight, puffy, inflamed, tired, you know, all of these different things. Yeah. And so I find that I am very sensitive to mold. As soon as I start feeling more tired and lethargic and just different things, I can start like looking

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Yeah.

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For it and I can find it. And I found some last week in our bathroom just a little bit. Really? Yeah. And okay, this is, we have a water pick, it's not on my side of the bathroom, <laugh>. And I looked over and I like, you know, little things are growing in it. Oh.

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And I was like, oh,

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It's time to like clean this out and whatever. So I'm like, I wonder if that mold was enough to, to be picked up back into my report, you know? Did

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You take a, like a urine ox

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Test? This one was through hair. Okay. But I did an oats test

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Yeah.

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A year and a half ago. Yeah. Before I got pregnant.

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Yeah. And

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Yeah,

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Cuz that'll change, you know, your, your protocol Right. You know? Yeah. <Laugh>. Yes. And it's not uncommon for I, and I will say the clients who thyroid doesn't get better, we find out it's mold. I generally suggest that it's probably mold, we should look into it. And mold denial is a huge thing, right. Because it feels like a heavy, heavy thing to handle, but it's so important that we handle it and we can do it step by step. It doesn't have to feel too overwhelming. But cleaning up the environment is so important. I mean, it's, it's dangerous.

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It is. It is. And I think it's like you said, kind of underrated, you know, when we built, so we've been in this house for about a year and some of the things that I did to try to prevent it was to put rubber mats, you know, under the sinks because that's easier to clean and throw away than it eating through the wood or Yeah. The cabinets and things like that. So anyways <laugh>

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Yeah. I mean, it's not, it's not common to be like, oh no, I don't wanna deal with that. And you know, <laugh>, you just, you gotta be in the right mindset for it, but unfortunately mold makes you so tired that then you're like, oh, I don't have the energy to deal with it. And then it's still weighing on you and then you get stuck in the cycle. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So,

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Okay. So from your experience and, and things like that, do you recommend people have someone come into their home to test for it? Or do you think that they can just kind of like look for it and find it on its own? Or

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<Laugh>? I would not go look for it on its own. No. No. Because that's what most people wanna do, right? They wanna go rip up the floorboards or tear out the wall or rip up a carpet. It's like, no, please don't. Especially if you're already not feeling great because when you go and disturb it, it knows it's being threatened. It sends out its toxins. And the mold spores are one thing, but the toxins is mycotoxins. They, sentil are so, so tiny they can infiltrate every cell in your body. And if you go and aggravate them, they spread out and they try to survive and you're a super host to allow them to survive. So no hiring someone <laugh> would be advised

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<Laugh>. Okay. For sure. Okay. Yeah. That and, and I'm also assuming not only to look for it, but also to remove it. Yes. Right.

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In two separate companies, it's, I am pretty sure it is not legally allowed. The company that spots it for you can't take it out because, you know, they could then keep saying, oh, you have more and you have more. When that's just not the case. Or they could say it's, it's, you know, clear. And so two separate companies for that for

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Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I've, I've had several clients where I'm like, you gotta look for it. Like at least, I mean, if you can just like, if you could open up your cabinets and just, you know, do something like that, or I've heard of some of my clients where the rubber seal to their fridge, they would always see it there and they would clean it off and then it would come back and they would just clean it off. And I'm like, okay, there's a bigger issue <laugh>.

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Yeah. Yeah, right. It's, there's something that's feeding into that. But yeah, don't go ripping down walls. Leave that too. Yeah. Everybody else.

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Yeah.

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Well you're not

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There. It seems like their health improves so much once it is, you know, cleaned up and Yeah.

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Yep.

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You know, especially if you live in humid places, you know. Absolutely. So,

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Yep.

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Is there usually one reason I, I think we kind of talked to this, but is there more reasons besides just mold as being the main culprit for hormonal issue? I guess hormonal and, you know, autoimmunity, those types of things.

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Oh yeah. <Laugh>, but, and kinda like you were saying, right? Where you have had mold and heavy metal issues together, you things go together. One can weaken the immune system, which allows the others to kind of take hold. So let's say you have mold that can allow for heavy metals, candida, it can allow for parasites and then we're losing nutrients. So generally I'd say maybe never are you gonna find just one thing. We're probably gonna find multiple. The good news though is if you find the main reason you just, you know, go after that and usually the other things can kind of take care of themselves. Just cuz your body's so capable of regulating it, it's just, you gotta take out the main offenders and we gotta find what they all are.

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Well, that's what I was gonna ask is how do you find the main offender? Like what would you recommend for someone

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<Laugh>? Yeah. you know, maybe a loaded topic.

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It is. So I

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Know. I mean, but you know, we just, that's where a lot of the symptoms can, you know, kind of guide us. And then it's where I do tend to use a lot of testing. I know there are some people that are like, oh, I spend money on testing. Well that's because if we didn't find something else an example of that is a client whose toxin report came back yesterday. She suffered a miscarriage. She has low thyroid function, low progesterone. Her, we just, her gut in working with someone else just couldn't ever regulate it. And it came back that she has perchlorates in her system probably from her water supply. And that's a known inhibitor of thyroid function. Had we not found that we wouldn't be checking the water supply, it wouldn't be an issue and we would just keep chasing the gut function, getting probably nowhere. So I am a big fan of using a bunch of different tools. Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, and I, I wanna stop here for a second because what I like to say is test don't guess. You're, like you were saying, your symptoms can lead us to, oh, we should look at this, we should do that, we should, you know, consider this or whatever. But when we have testing to validate it, we have a better under sometimes I can guess and be like, I think it's this Yes. You know? Yes. <Laugh> just because I've been doing this for a long time, but we could get their test results back and it could be something totally different. Yeah. You know?

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Yeah. And that's kinda up to the client Yeah. To how how far you wanna dig.

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Yeah. Yeah. So for someone and, and maybe your industry is a little bit different because people are like, I want to have a baby and <laugh>, you know? Yep. And so they're, I think maybe they're a little more ready to invest in finding answers. Yes. Because the end result is much more than like, I feel good, you know, <laugh>.

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Yeah.

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So what do, like, what kind of testing do you ever run into? Like, I don't wanna test or I don't want to spend the money on that. You guys hear my talking

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Say, oh, he's dreaming. So yeah, I mean they're, and it's, I think if a client says, you know, I don't wanna do all these investigations that that's up to them and that's totally fine. I'm just here to, to help investigate what you wanna investigate. But I have made the mistake in the past where I didn't want to ask them to do all the tests. So we just started with one thing. We kind of did the work, it wasn't getting better, then we maybe did one more test and did the work and it wasn't getting better. And I, I think, you know, over the last two, three years, I've just said, Ugh, if you, if you are down for doing all the things, let's do all the things. Are all these tests gonna come back with something? No, probably not. And that's a good thing, you know, that we can at least check that off and say, all right, great. We know that isn't something, we don't have to have that hanging over our head anymore. Check it off. So then we have the full game plan a lot quicker than, than spending a few months here than a few months here. Especially when you wanted to get pregnant five years ago. Yeah. So there's a benefit and Yes. You know, if ev if you wanna investigate all the things, I'm here for it.

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Yeah. Yeah. I love that. And I,

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I'm debating on sharing a story and I'm gonna just share it because it usually things like this come to my mind because somebody needs to hear it. But I had, I learned, like you, I learned some of this stuff the hard way. I had a client years ago where she was kind of a difficult case for thyroid and I was like, I don't know. And so I didn't, she had already spent, you know, money with me and was like, I can't spend any more money. And I was like, you know what? Like, I'm gonna pay for the test for you. And you know, I paid for the test, we did the test, we got the answers back. It was mold <laugh>, ironically. Yeah. <Laugh> and parasites and all of these things. And we're like, listen, this is what you need to do in order to move forward.

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And I ran up against this wall again with her where she's like, well, I don't wanna spend the money on paying for the supplements and the things to clear this out. And I was like, well, I can't pay for it. Yeah, no. You know, <laugh> like for you kind of deal. And she wanted to do it with food and nutrition alone. Okay. Maybe we can do it, maybe not. Like, we'll see, we'll see how this goes. And so we, we put her on like an antimicrobial kind of protocol and things without the supplements. And we were running into this wall again where she was having progress, but the progress wasn't fast enough. And Oh, I hate even saying this, but she was kind of angry with me, <laugh>. Yeah. You know, at the

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End just say the mold was angry. Yeah. It was the mold was

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Making her, yeah. The mold was making her angry <laugh>. But she was upset with me that her progress wasn't happening faster. And I had to go back to her and say, listen, this is what I recommended. This is the route that you chose to go and I was supporting you in that. But you're comparing your story and your results with everybody else who has, you know, not the same thing, but similar issues and they are willing to spend the money on the testing. They're willing to spend the money on the supplements and stuff, and you can't, it's not apples to apples, you know? Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so, you know, I think as listeners sometimes a and even for ourselves, I've had to come to a place and realize that I have to invest in my health and I have to make changes and adjustments to what I'm eating or the supplements that I'm taking or whatever it may be in order to have the progress that I want.

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Yep. I mean, what is it gonna cost you if you don't though? Which, and, and it stinks because I think a lot of times, and maybe you feel the same by the time we get a client, they've seen so many other people. So they've spent thousands and thousands of dollars and gotten nowhere, which stinks. You know, you feel bad for 'em. And I hope that I don't do that to too many other people. Right. That's why I want to find the right answer. But the so intricate and complicated that finding the right answer takes takes a lot of investigating mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. and it does cost money, but if we don't find it, are we gonna get better? Yeah. There's a lot to weigh in that.

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Yeah. And there's, I mean, at least with thyroid, they say an average of eight to 10 years before you get diagnosed Yeah. With a thyroid imbalance. And so that's a long time of being tired and puffy and inflamed and, you know, not feeling like yourself <laugh>. You know, and then you couple it with I feel like this is gonna trigger some people, but this, this feeling of being inadequate as to why can't I conceive, why can't I have a baby? Like I want this, it's a, a good righteous desire, you know, whatever it is. Yeah. Why am

(34:32):

I being, it feels like your birthright.

(34:33):

Yeah, yeah. Why am I being punished? Punished again, air quotes there and it's like, my heart just hurts for them, you know? Yeah,

(34:45):

Yeah, yeah. It does. And they're not, I hear a lot of times, so, well, this doctor will run these tests, but you have to advocate for yourself. You really have to push for it. Why, why should couples have to be doing that? I don't know. I just think if, if the patient requests something and I get, there's probably like insurance red tape in this and that, but if they're willing to pay for it, why aren't we at least running it? Cuz then you could just, you know, as the doctor you could say, oh, we ran this look, everything's fine. We could cross that off again. It's just unfortunate. Yeah. And they just keep having more and more losses because the plan isn't changing and they're not getting the help they need. It's yeah.

(35:35):

So as we kind kind of move to wrap this up, why would someone taking thyroid medication for hypothyroidism or Hashimotos not experience an increase in thyroid hormones? Like why would it not balance out those hormones for them?

(35:50):

Yeah, so I would say, you know, that kind of goes back to like a self resistance to it, right? So if the body's gone into that cell danger response, if it feels like it's being attacked over and over again by whatever it is, viruses, parasites, molds, that kind of thing it's not gonna allow that thyroid hormone into the cell. There's a mitochondrial dysfunction there, which I'm sure you could probably elaborate a million more reasons why somebody taking medication isn't getting better. But that is one that I've seen. Yep. It's just not gonna accept it. Yeah. It's, it's not functioning properly. The cells are have stiffened and they are not gonna work.

(36:35):

Oh, yes. And I, I wish I could go into all of the things <laugh> about that. And honestly, like before, like I said earlier, before hitting record on this I did a Facebook Live where we talked about it, and I have my little diagram back here behind me about the stages of cellular dysfunction. And thyroid hormone isn't as simple as you take it and it's absorbed into the body and it balances everything out. There has to be this process, and I've talked about this in so many different podcast episodes where thyroid hormone is sent to the liver and it's sent to the small intestines. And so if somewhere along the line the liver isn't working or the intestines, you know, your microbial balance is not working properly, the conversions aren't happening and the absorption isn't happening. So you increased dose, increased dose, increased dose, increased dose. I've had some clients where they've come in on like 225 MCGs of you know, levothyroxin or whatever it is. And I'm like, what is even happening here? You know? And thankfully very quickly they're able to work with their, their doctor, once we balance out the nutritional aspect of it, they're able to, you know, cut that dose in half or more Yes. In a very short period of time because

(38:11):

The body just needs to, to balance out, right? Yeah. It, it needs to be able to absorb those nutrients. And a lot of it has to go back to the gut work that we talked about.

(38:23):

Go. Cuz the thyroid's not a th it's not isolated. It's not just happening in its own. Just like with fertility, the ovaries and the testes are not operating on their own. So why are we only looking at ovaries or at and testes and saying, okay, well everything's functioning well. I don't know <laugh>. Yeah, there's a lot more to it than that.

(38:42):

Yes. I say all the time, your body is an ecosystem. Everything works together and you know, the mold is gonna impact this and, you know, heavy metals are gonna impact this. And like, like you were kind of talking about earlier, it opens the gates for parasites and mold and fungus and bacteria and all of these different things. And then it's like everything's broken. Like I'm just all, I'm just broken

(39:06):

<Laugh>. It feels like it Yeah. <Laugh>, yeah. Yes, yes. But you go to your thyroid doctor and you're just like, oh, well your, your thyroid looks okay, here's some more medication. Yep. <Laugh>.

(39:17):

Yep. Or now you're just, you just have anxiety. So here's an anxiety medication, you know, anyways.

(39:22):

Yeah, yeah. <Laugh>. Yeah, you could probably go on about that.

(39:26):

I, I could, I could rant. I feel like I'm in a ranting mood right now. Agitated. I don't know. I don't know what it is.

(39:35):

Hopefully I didn't bring that out on you,

(39:36):

<Laugh>. No, I just, all day today I'm like, ah, like this system is broken and Oh yeah. It's so stupid. And I hate for these women to struggle the way that they, they have, and like you were saying, a lot of these women are, I don't work with couples, so I work with women, but <laugh>, I mean that's

(39:56):

Fair.

(39:57):

A lot of these people have already tried so much, they, they're already on medication, they've tried different diets, they've done different cleanses, they've done all these different things and yet they still don't have answers. And here I am, like, hey, I can help you. And they're like,

(40:13):

Can, who am I? Yeah, yeah.

(40:14):

You know, like, I've already worked with this person and this person, this person, you know, and like what's the guarantee?

(40:22):

Yeah.

(40:22):

You know, for working with you. And, and I, I do have a guarantee for my program where we have a 80% reduction. Well, I actually lowered it. We have an average of 80% reduction in symptoms in four months. Yeah. But if you're gonna come into my program and you're gonna work with me, by the end of the four months, you're gonna experience a 60 to 70% reduction in symptoms. We track all of them. And if you don't have that, then I will work with you for an entire year up to an entire year. As long as you're doing the work, if you're taking your supplements, if you're, you know, coming to the coaching calls and putting forth the work in the effort, I will continue working with you and coaching with you because I, I believe in this so much and I know that it works when, when you have the right things put into place. Did

(41:13):

You see my website?

(41:15):

No, I didn't. No, it

(41:16):

Sparked that. Oh, I have a money back, I a money back program for my couples.

(41:20):

Oh, tell, tell us about that.

(41:22):

Yeah, so it's, it does, does all the testing for her, all the testing for him. So it is couples just because men are 50% of the equation and I'm not gonna put, you know, all of it,

(41:33):

Of it on the women mentee

(41:34):

Tea on Yeah. Like if, if the guy's just like, eh, go to McDonald's every day. But we do all the testing. We work together for a year several months included. So like you there are stipulations. Yeah. You know, we have to meet at least once a month. They've gotta be following this and doing the food logs. You gotta do the work. Yeah. But I'm confident in the work and if they aren't pregnant within 12 months of us working together, they get $5,000 back. So it's a big risk on my part, but that's how confident I am. Yeah. It's, but it's gonna work. Yeah. And you know, I don't know, it's easy. It's probably not legal to say like I guarantee, you know, I can't guarantee that you're gonna get pregnant. Right. Nobody can, but I guarantee my program works. And if it doesn't, you get $5,000 back. So

(42:25):

That's amazing. I, I think, I don't know how to say this. I think people who offer something like that it speaks volumes as to their, their integrity and the importance that they believe in this program and they're not just trying to take your money, you know?

(42:48):

No, no. That how shady, you know, <laugh> no take of couples who have been true, you know, anybody in any situation, you know, but no. Yeah. That's definitely not

(43:00):

Amazing here. Well, English, why don't, let's wrap this up cuz I gotta go get kids from school <laugh>, but let's, I'm gonna have you just share how can people follow you? How can they connect with you? And like I said, all of this will be in the show notes Yeah. For people to check out as well. But where can they find you and get in contact with you if they wanna work with?

(43:21):

Yeah. so you can find me on Instagram at Nourish Tree lou or on my website, the nourishing tree louisville.com. They can even scroll like halfway down that page. There's a free resource baby Ready Body. He's gonna go over all the reasons for unexplained infertility and give you some tips and tricks. That's kinda where you can find me.

(43:43):

That is awesome. Well, thank you so much for being on today and I hope you guys would reach out to English if you guys are struggling with fertility issues and you know, just want some answers.

(43:56):

I have so enjoyed being here. Yes. We'll have to rant another day.

(44:00):

<Laugh>. Right? I kinda in a feisty mood. Sorry guys. <Laugh>. It's just a, I don't know, it's just a day. All right. Well

(44:10):

To get fired up, it's fine.

(44:11):

Yes. We'll see you guys on the next

(44:17):

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129// Anxiety, Sleep and Your Thyroid - Their connection and What you need to know

 

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March 13th 2023, @ 10:30pm MST

 

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

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00:05):

Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

(01:27):

Hello, you guys. Happy Friday. Ok, I'm so excited for this. This is such a good question asked by Dana. Diana, hold on. I don't remember who asked this question. I'm gonna tag them when I figure it out or remember. She asked, I have always had issues with anxiety. Can hypothyroid on cos So we're gonna go to like really sciencey, nerdy geek camp. Okay, I'm hoping this, hopefully you guys can kind of see this and I apologize. I am working in my pajamas today with no makeup on. And so you guys just get the real rock. Shannon lemme move this chair. All right, so ignore the pink stuff. It's notes to myself. Let's see if we can bring this. That's better. Look at that. Okay, so here we go. Thyroid and anxiety depression. This is very commonly associated with a chucker. The reason for this, and this is again, super geeky and nerdy, and this is all the stuff that, like I've spent years learning. So don't feel bad if you don't know this. And if you have questions, please, please, please let me know. Hold on, let me see. Well, I gimme two seconds. You guys whoop, if you're on live, say hello. And I am going to see if I can quickly tag.

(03:14):

Here we go. Okay, so if you guys have questions while I'm going through this, please ask me. I realize that some of this stuff for me is easy. I've been doing this for a long time. But for a lot of you guys, this is gonna be completely new. So when all of my clients come work with me, we do more than, well, I don't do any blood testing. That is something that you can do with your doctor. I wanna see how your body is utilizing the minerals and the nutrients in your body because minerals are like the body's spark plugs. They get your body up and running and going as is. So what we need to, what you guys need to know and understand is that anxiety is a downstream problem. Like it's a result from something else being out of balance and we have to fix what's really causing it.

(04:13):

You don't have anxiety because you have a anxiety depression, medicine deficiency. Like there's some kind of other deficiency that you guys are experiencing. So first and foremost, when I do H T M A testing, when I do hair testing on clients, we look at the relationship or the, the ratio between calcium to potassium. How is your body utilizing those nutrients and those minerals? Potassium is your body's cellular sensitivity. This is what is opening the gate of your cells to allow thyroid hormones to even come in and pushing out the bad. If you don't have enough potassium, your body is going to be super outta balance. And that potassium is essentially like the gatekeepers for our for all of ourselves. So it allows hormones to come in and pushes 'em out. Okay? So we have to look at that. This is why going on thyroid medication isn't always the answer because if your body doesn't have enough potassium, the cellular sensitivity isn't gonna be there and it's not gonna uptake any thyroid hormones as it is.

(05:27):

You're gonna be doing blood work and it's gonna show your fine or that you need a higher dose or a lower dose or whatever. But if the potassium isn't there, it's not getting into the cells. This is what leaves us with fatigue, weight gain brain fog, hair loss, all of the classic thyroid symptoms, cold hands, cold feet, puffiness, inflammation, joint pain, muscle pain, constipation, blah, blah, blah, right? The list goes on. So then if we look over here at stomach acid, stomach acid needs zinc and potassium, stomach acid absorbs the vitamins, iron and proteins are kind of the, the major players here. So if we don't have enough stomach acid, then what happens while we're not breaking down our food, we're not absorbing it and we don't have energy. So we eat and we're tired, we are anemic and we're tired. <Laugh>, we don't have B-vitamins and we're tired.

(06:27):

Okay? So this helps to break down. Like I said, the proteins specifically when we're looking at anxiety specifically anxiety, depression, tryptophan. So tryptophan is found in your Turkey, your chicken, your meat, your red meat, your lamb, whatever. Okay? All most proteins, it's an essential protein. So it comes in like all forms of animal protein. So tryptophan needs b6. If you have a genetic marker like M t h, ffr, which if you have thyroid, U 99% have that, that genetic marker. So here's a double whammy. You don't have the B vitamins because of the stomach acid. You don't have <laugh> this stomach acid because of the, the minerals because of the thyroid. And so there's this whole host of things happening way up here that is not being recognized and utilized by modern medicine. Okay? So tryptophan needs a co-factor of B6 to break down properly in addition to stomach acid.

(07:44):

So co the B6 and the triptan then convert when everything works properly, then convert into serotonin. Serotonin is that happy, feel good, yay. Energy inside of us. And that serotonin then turns into melatonin. So what we see, what I see when I am working with my clients is thyroid issues, low stomach acid issues, anxiety, depression happening, well actually let me back up. Low energy <laugh> typically happening first, and then we have some anxiety, depression. Even if you don't recognize that you're having it, it's probably coming in. And then you're also probably having sleep issues. So then we get stuck in the cycle of low energy, no energy. So we're eating sweets and carbohydrates to compensate for the low energy and we have puffiness and weight gain and inflammation and like willpower and all of the things can only take us so far in this journey. And it's about finding what the right balance is for your body, okay?

(08:56):

The answer isn't necessarily go supplement with zinc and potassium and calcium and B6 and, and tryptophan and all of these things. No, the answer is a little bit more complicated than that. And what I mean by that, and I have like a test result here where you guys can see, hold on, let me get the name out of it. I don't think you guys would be able to read it, but you know, just in case right here on this person, this is calcium and this is magnesium. And let's see, their potassium is right here. Okay? So you can see potassium is low. The, you should be like right here for all of your minerals. Those are like optimal levels. Well, their calcium is super high. What this is telling us about this person is not that they have too much calcium, it's me.

(09:47):

It means that their body has, is not absorbing the calcium and it's pulling the calcium from their teeth. It's pulling it from their bones, their organs and essentially their body is like breaking down from the inside out. So if you feel like you're burning the candle at both ends, if you feel like no matter what I do, the healthy efforts that I'm making, all of these things, all of that is contributing to this dysfunction. This is only one piece of the puzzle. And we have to look at what's happening in the body as a whole because your body is an ecosystem, okay? There's other things when we look into symptom mapping, when we look into, so what I mean by symptom mapping is when we look at like shoulder pain or knee pain or back pain or neck pain or headaches or all of these other symptoms, there could be reasons why these things are happening for you.

(10:50):

In addition to this, right? Your body is trying to tell you <laugh> what is happening and what you need to pay attention to. And let me just give you guys hi Amy. Let me give you like some action steps. So first and foremost, I'm gonna drop the link here in just a minute. I have a whole masterclass where we're going over all of this stuff on Monday. I would love for you to come, even if you can't attend live, please, please register. I will get you the replay with the workbook that has all of this information in it that you need. Okay? So you have to register to get the replay and get the workbook and everything. So that's number one. If you wanna dive in depth, come on Monday and get, or, and or get the replay, I would love for you to attend my, cause I find that when I have conversations, the class flow so much better and you guys get more out of of it.

(11:53):

Okay? So that's number one. Number two, when we, what would I do for someone who came in this way? First and foremost, I always, always, always, always, always run the right testing. We have to do H T M A testing. We have to figure out how these minerals are playing with each other, okay? All of that comes in on this little chart. It's two pages, you guys, this is, this is an an entire report on what somebody gets, okay? Like you guys can see this, like this is so much more information than your blood work, okay? So if you wanna find answers, like this is <laugh>, this is the thing in addition to that, we have to be looking at what is the plan and the path for this person. Because going in and changing your habits overnight is not going to work. So the testing alone is not the answer.

(12:54):

I know <laugh> we have to look at the person as a whole. And so what I would do for this person if they were not working with me, if they didn't have, if you couldn't afford to work with me or have like a whole comprehensive plan protocol built out for you, what I would recommend is digestive enzymes and probiotics. Okay? The reason for this, and if you want to send me a private message, we can talk more about like some general recommendations for that to get started. Okay? The reason for this, as remember at the beginning, we kind of get stuck in the cycle of like this ratio, the thyroid ratio, calcium to potassium is outta balance. And then we have low stomach acid. So we're not breaking down our food, we're not absorbing our food or the nutrients from the food. And so then we end up with low energy and then it's this whole cycle, right? So what we want to do is we want to increase stomach acid so that all of these other things down here start to fall into place. One of the best ways that we can do that very quickly, digestive enzymes. Okay?

(14:19):

Then you guys, we didn't even get into like the intestines and the liver and all the things and how all of that plays together. So stomach acid, you can also search the Facebook group. I have tons of information if you just search the Facebook group and stomach acid comes up and we talk about all the things, okay? In addition to that, probiotics. So what also happens is nutrients, food begins to be absorbed into cells of the body through the intestines. Thyroid hormone is also absorbed through the intestines. And so this can only happen in the presence of good, healthy bacteria. Now, you can also search in this Facebook group, I've made some posts about finding the right strands of probiotics. We need to understand that just taking a probiotic off the shelf and taking it and hoping for these magic things may not happen.

(15:23):

There are certain strands of probiotics that help and aid the body in specific things. There are things for like yeast. There are certain things for seasonal allergies or certain things for eczema or ro rosacea. There's also things for bloating or constipation or maybe you're having the opposite. And more diarrhea things are going through you too quickly. There are specific probiotics that help with that kind of thing. And so if you need some recommendations, again, comment below search to Facebook group. I am more than happy to share that information with you guys to help you get started. And we can get you some discounts on all of it and all the things. So let me know if this makes sense. Let me know if you have questions. I will see you guys on the next.

(16:21):

Before you go, I want to give you a special invite to an upcoming, an upcoming masterclass on three overlooked hormonal shifts that are helping you to heal your thyroid function. This class is incredible, you guys. We are diving in depth on so many different things. First and foremost, we're gonna be talking about healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. We're gonna learn how to combine foods to help maximize your nutritional intake. I'm also going to be teaching you about metabolic typing and how to eat according to your metabolic type so that you don't have to quote unquote diet again. Your body will easily be able to get the nutrient needs, reduce inflammation and slough off the excess weight. We're gonna talk about how the current medical model is failing you and keeping you stuck when it comes to your thyroid. We're gonna be talking about thyroid blockers and how they're coming into your life and keeping your medication from not working optimally, keeping you tired, fatigued, puffy, inflamed with brain fog.

(17:29):

We're gonna also dive into medication and supplements that is blocking thyroid function and one of my most favorite topics, how your body is speaking to you and what you need to know in order to know how to listen to it. Last but not least, we're gonna teach you and walk you through the steps to help you understand symptom mapping and how you can take your health into your own hands. Head over to the show notes, register for our upcoming class and get all of the details on the dates and times. I will see you on the next

(18:04):

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128// Has Epstein Barr Virus Affected Your Thyroid with Leanne Brubacher

Leanna lives with her handsome husband and four amazing children in Ontario, Canada. She loves to read a good book, drink pour-over coffee, eat Asian food, and travel to new and exciting places. She also loves to research… give her a good medical mystery and her fingers will tingle with anticipation to start Googling. Leanna has dealt with a slew of health issues, and has researched countless hours to gain the knowledge she has as well as successfully using the strategies on herself and others. Her greatest wish is to empower you to feel better and get back your zest for life!

 

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vibranthealedlife.com

Book: Kiss Fatigue Goodbye & Say Hello to Energy: vibranthealedlife.com/kiss-fatigue-goodbye

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[email protected]

 

 

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SHOW NOTES AT 

 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

 

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

 

We got you! 

 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

 

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

 

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

 

CONTACT LINKS

 

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

 

PAID RESOURCES

 

AFFILIATE LINKS

 

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

 

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 


AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION

00:05):

Leanna lives with her Hus, her handsome husband and four amazing kids in Ontario, Canada. She loves to read good books, drink, pour over coffee and eat Asian food, and and travel to new and exciting places. She also loves research. Give her a good medical mystery and her fingers will tingle with anticipation To start Googling. Leanna has dealt with a slew of health issues and has researched countless hours to gain the knowledge she has as well as successfully using the strategies on herself and others. Her greatest wish is to empower you,

(00:44):

Right? Welcome. Welcome back to the Thriving Throid podcast. You guys have Leanna Lee? Yeah, I said that right? Lianna Brew Baker. I have a niece named Liana, and so I just looking at the names, I always gonna probably mess that up. Leanna specializes in Epstein Bar and I'm really excited to have this conversation because we know that Epstein Bar is associated and related to thyroid. So welcome Leanna.

(01:14):

Thank you. It's nice to be here.

(01:16):

Yeah. So let's just start with your story and then we'll go into what Epstein Bar is and how people may come to suspect it and all of those wonderful things. So

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Yeah, sure. I was born and raised in Virginia in the US and I met and married this tall, dark and handsome Canadian man. Have you ever read Jeannette Oak books back in the day? It's pretty far back, but the Royal Canadian Mounty always made my heart flutter. And my husband isn't in the police force, but he is everything else. My husband and I, we lived overseas for quite a few years, and over there at a standard practice to be given your blood and test results. After seeing a doctor, when we would have a medical issue and need to see a doctor, I would always go online to make sure that what was prescribed was acceptable or similar to what would be prescribed in Canada or the us. With four children, I got really good at scoping out an issue and what would be standard practice in dealing with it, even before seeing a doctor.

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And then I had a couple of medical issues that the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong. And with the mentality that I could research on my own, I was able to figure it out myself. It was pretty empowering. Eventually we moved back to Canada and I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's hypothyroidism and I'm pretty certain that I had symptoms starting back when I was 22. But back then the doctors only tested my t s H and told me everything was normal. And as you know, by the way, a lot of people who have Epton bar also have Hashimotos and Epton Bar can take the blame for most autoimmune diseases. Hypothyroidism comes with a lot of the same symptoms as Epstein Bar. So when I was extremely tired, I just thought that my thyroid medication was off and I needed to increase.

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Little did I know there was something else lurking under the surface. In my particular case, I was exhausted and so tired all the time. Anybody with hyperthyroidism knows like what I'm talking about, absolutely no energy to do anything else. And I was lucky to be able to still work, but barely. It was part-time, but it did take away from my family time because I would push myself to get through the day when I got home, I'd crash and, you know, just do the bare minimum. It's really hard to describe the exhaustion. It's not like I was falling asleep every moment, although I had lots of those. It's more like my brain would say, I really should sweep the floor and my body would say no, can-do. My legs felt really heavy and achy and I had no energy or desire to do anything else.

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And when I did get up to do something, all I wanted to do was sit or lay down. I had trouble thinking clearly if I would be trying to cook and follow a recipe, I would lose my place or have to double check. If I did that step, I had trouble making plans or remembering plans. Making arrangements for my children to have friends over was so difficult. I also had a lot of joint pain to get down on the floor to change. My son was possible, but I could hardly stand up again because of the pain. My feet and ankles were swollen and my entire body ached with every movement. I had to sleep on my back because if I slept on my side, my arms and legs would lose circulation and fall asleep. When I got out of bed, the bottoms of my feet hurt from walking for the first 10 minutes and I was stiff and walked hunched over until my body warmed up.

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So I did have an appointment with my family doctor and I mentioned all of the things that I was feeling. She ran some blood work and referred me to a rheumatologist who ran more blood work only to discover that I had a reactivation of Epson bar virus. I didn't even know I had Epton bar to begin with. And this like, it wasn't like a lot quick, sorry, it wasn't as quick as that made it sound. It took about nine months to get all of that done. And what did my doctors recommend for treatment? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Yeah. So I joined Facebook groups and I started researching. I put together a protocol for myself, purchased the supplements, and got started. Thankfully, it worked.

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I love that. So one of a couple things. First and foremost, I know the listeners are gonna be like, oh my gosh, you just described me to a t <laugh>. You know, I've heard people saying when they get outta bed in the morning, they feel like they're walking on glass or they feel like their body is just tired, or they feel like they have a weighted vest on them where it's like, I just, I want to do the things, but I can't. Yeah. So I mean, it sounds like this is something that you also experienced. So when they told you you had a reactivation of Epstein Barr how, how did, how was that feeling for you? What were your thoughts that you experienced during that?

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Well I was like, it was one of the tests I had requested because I knew that Epstein bar could be one of the root causes of Hashimoto's. But I was a little bit surprised. But like my first thought was mono, I have mono. That's like why I feel so terrible. So when I knew that and like as you know, like mono and Epstein bar, like Epstein bar can cause the mono symptoms. But when I knew that I had mono or Epton bar, I told my family that I have mono. And when you say the word mono, people understand more clearly like how you're feeling. They know that you feel like crap and you can hardly do anything and you're really tired all the time. So it was really freeing to be able to say that. And then my family helped out more and they could understand why I was feeling so terrible.

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Isn't that interesting that, like you say Epstein bar and people are like, oh, you must feel like garbage. And then you say you have Aji Motos and they're like, okay, <laugh>, like, and just kind of move on.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Or did you not experience that part of it?

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Well, like you say Hashimotos and they're like, what's that? Like, I don't know what that is. And I'm like, well, your thyroid is slow. And they're like, okay. But they don't understand how your thyroid not functioning properly, affects every aspect of your body's function. It affects all your organs and yeah, your brain and just everything You have cold hands and feet and yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. So you, so after you found out, you went and research, cuz I didn't give you any help and you started taking supplements. So what is your background? Did you go on to like get education or how did you get to be where you're at right now?

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Yeah, so I'm a self-learner, self-taught. So I've always been really interested in medical. But I, like, I was a dental assistant for a while but like I never did the studies to become certified in any of that. So I'm just a normal person who loves to study and research and I don't mind trying things out on myself. So so yeah, like that's my background.

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Amazing, amazing. So what is Epstein Bar and how do you know if you have it or, yeah.

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Okay. Yeah. Epstein Bar is one of the nine herpes viruses and it's one of the main viruses, like I said, to cause mono. And it's a well-known fact that 90 to 95% of the world's population has Epstein bar lurking inside of them. So that's like nine out of 10 people that have it. And it may not be active in everybody, obviously it isn't, but it's still in their bodies. Epton bar enters our bodies often when we're young and can even be passed to us from birth. Usually the body fights it off with no symptoms alerting us. That's even there. However, there is a part of the virus that remains when the body fights it off the virus creates a protective shield against our immune system so that our immune system doesn't recognize it as an enemy. So like, I don't know if you watched any of your kids' movies, like I think in Megamind there's a car that's invisible and that's kind of like the Epson bar virus where it, it has this invisibility about it.

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It's in there and it affects our cells and everything, but you can't, the body, the immune system can't see it. So sometimes our body puts it into like, makes it go dormant so it hides and goes dormant somewhere inside of us. It could be in our throat or organs or blood cells. When our bodies become stressed really tired or sick from other viruses such as C O V D, EPON Bar pops out and seizes the opportunity to take over people with weakened immune systems like when you have a virus are more likely to have symptoms appear with reactivation. Research has linked Epson bar to covid long haulers, which means that covid reactivated Epstein bar and these covid long haulers actually have EPN bar. And Epstein Bar has been linked as a cause to a lot of diseases including, but not limited to multiple sclerosis, hash emoto thyroiditis, lupus type one diabetes, celiac and inflammatory bowel disease. In some cases it can cause cancer such as Hodgkin's lymphoma, Burkitts lymphoma, gastric carcinoma, breast cancer and leukemia.

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This is really interesting. So just my own story, all of my listeners, if they've been around for the last year I got Covid last September and I was eight months pregnant, nine months pregnant, seven months, I don't know. I was pregnant, I was due in January and I, it took me a long time to recover and part like I remember saying to my husband, I don't know if this is like pregnancy related cuz I'm so tired or <laugh> because I'm in my third trimester, like, or if this is like the effects of Covid and I literally within this last week, I'm like, I'm starting to feel normal again. And it's, I mean it's been literally almost a year since I've had my baby. Wow. And like thir whatever, September, October, November 12, 13, 14, about 15 months since I've had Covid and I'm like, I'm just starting to feel normal.

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So, and I know I had Epstein Bar as a kid, I didn't, or mono I should say I had mono, I was never officially diagnosed with it. But I was like, there's no way I didn't have it. My best friend had it and we slept in the same bed and we shared food and <laugh> like, you know, all of those things and looking back all the, like all of the fatigue that I had, everybody thought I was super depressed. I'd wake up, drag myself outta bed, go to school, come home and go to sleep. They would wake me up for dinner and I would go back to sleep, you know, <laugh>. Wow. And you know, at 14, 15, like you don't have the language to be like, I'm just so tired. I was like, I'm tired, I'm sleepy <laugh> like, so that's really interesting the, the connection to Covid long haulers. Because again, for myself, I just kind of chalk to some of this up to like pregnancy, postpartum, you know? Yeah,

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Yeah, yeah. It's easy to do that. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that Epstein Bar is actually reactivated like after Covid and that's it's, they share the same symptoms. So but there's research coming out now and a lot more people are becoming aware and some doctors know about testing for Epson bar if they have covid long haul and some don't. So you know, the awareness is getting out there.

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That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean some of it is just because Covid is new and we're all, we're all learning together. Yeah. for sure. So how does it affect our life long term? How would Covid affect our life long term at Li <laugh> lifelong? And can it be cured or how do we manage E B V?

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Yeah, so if you don't mind, I'm just gonna back up, but one step and share some of the symptoms like we've talked a little bit about the symptoms and then there's some specific tests that can be taken for that. So some of the symptoms include fatigue, brain fog, skin rashes and mouth sores. Some people don't know that the mouth sores are actually from Epton bar. Other symptoms include difficulty sleeping joint and muscle pain, sore throat, headaches and fever. And for testing there's a four panel blood test that can be ordered. E A I G G, which is early antigen V C A I G M, which is viral capsid antigen, VCA A I G, which is viral capsid antigen, but with the IgG G form and then E B N A, IgG G, which is the nuclear antigen. And if you're worried about remembering all those tests don't stress you can go to vibrant healed life.com/test to download A P D F with the information that you need for getting tested if you're concerned about that.

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And then how does it affect your life long-term? If your body can't fight off Epstein bar, you will feel horrible. The current symptoms will continue and more symptoms will appear. The virus will cause your immune system to attack your own organs, creating multiple autoimmune diseases. It's a miserable way to live. As for a cure, I'd like to share two things from the medical perspective at this time it is said to be uncurable, the best case scenario is deactivating the virus. It will remain in your system and as long as you eat properly and don't get too stressed or have hormonal changes, it will stay dormant. As soon as one of those changes, it has opportunity to become active and do damage. I will say that I have learned what to take to deactivate it and to keep it that way. I know what to do to keep it under control and it's a matter of having supplies on hand and recognizing the symptoms.

(16:36):

Now from alternative medicine, I have heard that stem cell treatment can be an effective course of action for those who are not able to manage Epstein Bar. One case study was of a lady who had Epstein bar blood tests confirmed it and after her stem cell treatment she was retested and the blood test results had no evidence of it anymore. The reason it's so astounding is because usually even after deactivating the virus, there are still antibodies showing that it was there. So some of the tests that I just mentioned, some of them are testing to see if you had it in the past and some of them are testing to see if you have it now. So stem cell treatment could be considered a cure. Yeah, so it's a great option and I want to add that if you're considering stem cell treatment, make sure it's a reputable place and I know of one and I'm planning to go there next year. So if you are interested in that, you can ask me more.

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Awesome. Yeah. Is it, I might have to go get the baby. Hold on. She should be napping. So how, okay, so stem cell research and stem cell stuff, I don't even know what to call it. Treatment is incredible for people in the states. Well, let me ask about the treatment center. Is it something that people have to pay out of pocket or is it something that they'll work with their insurance or what they have?

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Yeah, so what the states doesn't, the states in Canada, neither one of those have it approved for straight up treatment. Okay. So what they're working on in the states in Canada is they're taking, like say your liver isn't functioning properly, they'll I'm actually sure if it's the liver, which organ they take out, they give it stem cell treatment, then they put it back in. The place that I'm talking about is in Mexico and it is out of pocket. It's not cheap, but you do wanna make sure that you're getting, you know, good quality and stem cells that are verified and tested and all of that, cuz you don't wanna put anything that's not tested in your body.

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Yeah, yeah. You know, and I think, like you said, if you are a listener and you're considering some kind of treatment, just please make sure it's a reputable place. I know they're like in Mexico and other places they have treatments that we just don't have access to. I have a friend who has very progressive stage four cancer and she has been receiving treatment out of the country and it's working phenomenal for her. She has multiple kids and so anything to prolong her life is, is absolutely a good choice, right? Like, I don't, I don't know how else to say that.

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<Laugh>. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And, you know I'm going, but like I have learned how to manage Hashimotos and I've learned how to manage the Epton bar. I, I also dealt with sibo and I learned how to treat that as well. So my quality of life is quite good. So I'm going and I'm gonna get some stem cell treatment as well to take care of. I have a lot of allergies, food allergies and things. So there's certain, a lot of foods that I can't eat. So I've heard that that's one of the first things that stem cells fixes is your food allergies. It fits, it fixes your gut. So I'm really excited about that, but I'm also taking my daughter who has some heart issues and we're gonna see if that will help as well. So it's, it's really neat progressive treatment. And it's unfortunate it's not available here and with insurance, but you know, one way I look at it is I could be spending $10,000 in the next few years on supplements and different things here and there, or I can go there and get like an even better life back. So yeah, it's just how you look at it there, I guess.

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Yeah, no, and I, I love that you bring that up and this is something that's been on my mind the last couple of days is because, okay, this is like a side story, but it's gonna come back to health. So we built this house a couple year or about two years ago and we have this med room, we need to do a built-in, but we've bought all kinds of like baskets and bins and hooks and like everything only to like put a bandaid on it. And I walk in there and I'm like, it's still a crazy mess, right? Like I still, this is not a functional room, I'm gonna go crazy. And I finally like had the come to Jesus talk with my husband, I was like, it needs to be done before the end of the year because we've bought all these things.

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The bins haven't held up, nobody uses it, like just bags are thrown on the floor. Like there's no organization to it. And we've spent money and probably more money than it would've been to just do the thing. And I think sometimes that's what we do with our health. We, we want to just take a pill or we want to just eat a brussel sprout or drink water and like everything to magically go away, but we don't look at over time what it's costing us the cost of like financially not finding real answers, real solutions. You know, luckily for you, you did enough research and you were able to figure it out, but for some people who maybe don't have the time, don't have the maybe aptitude or the desire to learn, but they want to feel better, that's where investing in working with a coach, working with a mentor is so much more powerful than trying to figure it out on your own.

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Yeah, for sure.

(23:04):

So yeah. Okay. let's go back to talk about how long it does it take for you to heal or see results in regards to feeling better from Epstein Bar?

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Yeah. I started the protocol and I noticed a positive change in the first two weeks. But it took about two months for me to say, Hey, I'm feeling great all the time, not just for a day or two here and there, but like all the time. And I'm not sure if you've heard about the Herxheimer effect or die off making you feel worse. This protocol is designed to reduce the effects of Die Off. It takes a little longer, but it's a much more gentle approach to healing.

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This is kind of a side note, and maybe you don't have an answer <laugh> for this, but how, if somebody has Epstein Bar and lion's Disease, are they connected or can like some of this over, like some of what you do for Epstein Bar overlap with Lyme's Disease or any of those other infections?

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Yeah for sure, like Epstein Bar can definitely play a part in having lupus or Lyme's Disease or some of these other things. So sometimes it's hard to know which, which one to treat first. Yeah, yeah. But like treating Epstein Bar would be beneficial for, for the lupus or the Lyme or you know, whatever else you might have because it eliminates that process going on in your body that so then your body can focus more on healing from the, the lime or the other thing as well. And a lot of, you know, a lot of our lifestyle is lifestyle is very instrumental in how we heal too. So like eating healthy reducing stress or managing stress and, you know, all of that is, is influential with, with any of these diseases. So like if you are eating healthy for Epstein Bar, which that will also help the Lyme or the Lupus or that kind of thing as well.

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah, totally makes sense. So we talked about how long it takes, right? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, can we talk about that? Okay. <Laugh> if I had this, what num what is the number one thing that you, so if you, if someone had Epstein Bar, maybe they know, maybe they've been tested, maybe they've been, they suspect, whatever what is one thing that they can do to make a difference for them?

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Okay. well I have a book so they could buy the book and that would be an easy way to have a step-by-step direction on what to do. But otherwise, like eat healthy, choose fruits and vegetables over junk food, eat clean meats and protein manage dress and be happy. But there are like, there are other natural antivirals that can be taken. And they are important because they fight specifically against the Epstein Bar virus. So so yeah, getting knowledge on some antivirals taking things like coital silver there's coconut oil, which is very good for like, it's an antifungal, antiviral antibacterial thing to take. And there's lycine and Mono Larin and there's cat claw. Like there's a whole list of things that can be done. But yeah, in the book, i, I go over it and it's just a, it's a simple two step protocol and it's easy. It's not expensive to buy the supplements and just follow the directions and should make a big difference.

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That's amazing. Well, thank you so much Liam. Is there we're gonna link everything up in the show notes. I know we've talked about this so vibrant healed life.com and you said the, the testing information is vibrant healed life.com/um testing, but if people want to follow you on social media or connect with you, how can they do that?

(27:43):

Yeah, so I have an Instagram and a Facebook page. It's both under vibrant Healed Life vibrant healed life.com right now. There's a key nutrients blueprint if somebody wants to get, to get a list of all of the key nutrients that you need to, to live a healthy life. And then there's also the book Kiss Fatigue, goodbye and say Hello to Energy that's also available. So you can connect with me anywhere there.

(28:12):

Yeah. Awesome. And then to buy the book, you just go to your website and is that the only place they can find it or is there

(28:22):

Yeah, right now it's only available on my website. Yeah, the book is vibrant healed life.com/kiss fatigue. Goodbye. Or you can go to vibrant heal life.com, get the key nutrients, and that will take you to the sales page for the book as well.

(28:40):

Perfect. Awesome. Thank you so much. Is there anything, any last words of wisdom or anything the listeners should know before we close today?

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Yeah, I would say just never give up. Like it is possible to heal and to feel better. So never give up. Believe that you can and you can do it.

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Awesome. Thank you so much. We will see you guys on the next

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Good morning, my friends at the time of recording this. This is Morning <laugh>, if you're listening to it in the afternoon. Happy afternoon. Happy happy evening, happy laundry day, washing dishes, whatever you guys do. While you're listening to podcasts, let's talk about ways to invest in yourself.

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Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more After that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Hanon Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week, I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

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All right, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast with your host Shannon Hansen. I am super excited today to be talking to you about ways to invest in yourself. Some of them cost money and some of them do not cost money, and I think that that's a great way to get started. So I wanna give you guys, I love telling stories. Hopefully you know that about me right now. I love telling stories because I feel like when you hear and see how other people do it, you can adapt it and model what you are seeing other people do. And, and so I love stories. I feel like that's the way that I learn and get to apply it into my life. So let's, of course start with free options. We'll go to free options, up to like big high ticket ways to invest in yourself, okay?

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And when I say invest in yourself, I mean invest in yourself mentally, emotionally, fear, physically, spiritually. And one of the best ways to do that is to sit down and make a list of your priorities. This is something that I find that I have to do on, on a semi-regular basis, where when I feel like my life is getting a little bit out of balance, I have to go back to pen and paper and remind myself what is the most important thing for me at this stage or this season in my life? Because it's going to change our lives, literally change about every three to six months, okay? So I love routine, I love knowing Monday, I do this Tuesday, I do this Wednesday, this Thursday, this, and I love the, like, almost the automation of those things. And my husband thinks I'm crazy <laugh>, because I would rather have my kids in a year round sport than a seasonal sport.

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And so, like, I would prefer dance, I prefer gymnastics, I prefer things like that because literally like my schedule doesn't change. However, I have kids that love softball and soccer and other things, <laugh>. So I don't, I don't necessarily get that, but, and my husband's like, I would rather like suck it up and have a crazy schedule for, you know, a season and then go back to like more relaxed time. So anyways, however that works for you. But as you guys go through life, your life is gonna change every three to six months, whether small, big life changing things, right? Someone gets sick, someone passes away, you're going through a divorce I don't know, health issues, whatever, whatever it is, okay? And one thing that I've learned from this, like being a, an observer of how our life changes every couple months, is I now look at struggles and trials as like it's going to pass.

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This isn't a long term. Like sometimes when you're in the thick of it and you're going through something really, really hard and challenging, you're sitting there thinking, this is never gonna end. Or when is this gonna end? When is God gonna take this burden from me? I like <laugh>, I can't handle anymore. And then as we train our mind to find the positive, that trial, that struggle, that burden usually becomes easier. And not because the trial or the burden goes away, sometimes it does, but oftentimes we can or should learn coping skills and coping mechanisms to help us better adjust to the situation. So let me give you an example. I have a family member who recently went through a divorce and he has really been struggling, struggle, struggle, struggle. You know, why this, why that, this, you know, all the different things. Well, as he's gone to therapy, as he's done counseling, as he's pondered, as he's, you know, prayed about it as he's whatever, and he's still in the middle of it and it's still really hard and he's still struggling to see like the good <laugh>.

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But I truly believe, and I keep telling the him this, in a year or two years, five years, you're gonna look back and be like, that event shaped and molded who I am today. And I'm thankful for that experience. I had a very traumatic, crazy upbringing. Like many of us, I think all of us can look back at different times and events in our lives and think, wow, that was like pretty horrific what I went through. And I, my mom, my lovely mom has made many comments over the years. I'm so sorry you had to go through these things. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And I finally looked at her one day and I was like, do you not like who I am? And she was like, no, I love who you are. You're an amazing person. You're this, you're that.

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And I said, great, all of those things that you keep apologizing for and telling me they were so awful and terrible. I said, those are the exact things that shaped and molded me into the person that I am today. And I quite like who I am. And I said, you don't need to apologize for those things anymore because I have made peace with those things. And I am so thankful and grateful for all of the hard things that I have gone through because it has made me who I am. And I have the opportunity to sympathize and empathize with people who have gone through similar situations. And I think that really shifted her perspective in a lot of these things. So anyways, I kind of digress here, but I feel like that's really important for all of us to gain that, gain that perspective when we're dealing with hard things.

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So I like to go back to pen and paper, you guys, I'm a visual person, not like a computer screen. No, I need to physically write it out. If you see any of my videos a lot of times in my office I will have a big whiteboard in the background because, and that whiteboard literally helps me get this like 30,000 foot view when even paper can't allow me to have that expansion. It's crazy. I don't know if everybody's that way, but see, like backing up and like looking at that board sometimes is exactly what I need. And I will go through and I will make a list of things that are a priority to me. So things like maybe exercising is on there, maybe my family's on their work finances investments, reading books. Like I just list out literally everything that is important to me.

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And then I go through and I rank those things and I make three to five things non-negotiable for me. And sometimes the non-negotiables are my kids. Sometimes it's my spirituality, sometimes it's my exercise and physical activity. Sometimes, you know, whatever, maybe I don't know. You, hopefully you guys get the idea. <Laugh>, you know, and for that, those three months or six months or two months, whatever, I go back and I prioritize those date. And in the month of December, I had different priorities because that was the month and a season that I was in. Now it's January and my priorities have shifted. I mean, my business shifts in December, November, December. Like people, let's be honest, y'all are like, I just, I just want to eat, drink, and be merry and fat and happy, like <laugh>, you know? And then things pick up. Usually middle of January we start going to more enrollments and things like that.

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And so my life shifts between like November to January. My priorities have to shift. I get to go from being like more relaxed and just focusing on fulfillment for my clients and you know, just pouring into them, giving them the training, the health support that they need through the holidays. And then starting January, people have like, I'm gonna give you guys a little insight <laugh> to the way people's brains work, at least in my industry. So all of you guys, most of us set these new year resolutions. You're like, I'm gonna get healthy this year. I'm gonna prioritize my thyroid, I'm gonna lose weight. I'm gonna right. And then come January 15th. And everybody kind of realizes, oh, that still is a priority for me, but I'm struggling to do it on my own. I'm struggling to keep myself accountable. And so that's usually when my pick my business picks up.

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People have also paid off, you know, the holiday <laugh>, the Christmas a little bit, and people are starting to file for here in the US file tax returns and, or yeah, tax returns. And so they're maybe getting a little bit money back and so they can use that money to invest in themselves. And so my priorities now, because it's mid-January, have shifted to match what the market is doing. And in all honesty, having the kids home for the holidays, like it's, it's perfect for me, right? But if I didn't shift my priorities at least a little bit during that time, things would be really frustrating. I would feel like I was bumping up against a wall. Okay. All right. So that's number one is listen priorities and allow them to change. Allow them to adapt to the season that you're in. Maybe right now your focus is debt consolidation and paying off your debt.

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Or maybe your priority is getting your thyroid hormones fixed or like even doubt so that you can get off medication. And so you are going like, if that's the goal or that's the priority, we have to take those steps to match things up. And so let me give you guys an example here. So let's say that you're telling yourself, balancing my hormones is most important thing for me right now because I wanna lose weight because I'm getting married and I wanna feel comfortable and confident in my wedding dress and whatever, right? Like, okay, well going to McDonald's drive-through three times a day. You're saying one thing, but your effort and your actions are telling us a, a very different story. And so going through and reminding yourself of what my priority is, why it's important, and what actions do I need to take are some of the most important things.

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Now, I know for me personally, I always do way better when I have some kind of accountability externally, right? Whether that's a person, whether that's a thing, whether that's an event, whether, you know, like I am going to be more accountable if I'm meeting a friend at the gym or if I'm meeting a friend to go walking. Or if I have a coach and I'm keeping a journal and the, and my coach is saying, Hey, you're doing really good on your journals or not. Like, my effort is going to be better when I have committed to someone else. And you guys, let me tell you something. <Laugh> husbands are not your accountability partner. Okay? My husband told me this several years ago and I've never forgot it. He's like, my job, I was like, okay, I need you to hold me accountable every day you come home from work.

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I want you to ask me if I worked out and how my eating was and whatever. And he was like, no, <laugh>, he flat out told me, he's like, no, that is not my job. He's like, my job is to comfort you when you had a crap day and everything went to crap and you just didn't get that stuff done. He's like, you need to find someone else <laugh> to do that for. And I was like, Ugh, you're so right. And so anyways, okay, so that's number one. And number two, I guess make your prior, make a list of priorities and then take the action steps and write them down what action steps you need to make those top three priorities and everything else. On top of that, you get to say, yes, that I'm gonna do that because it fits into other priorities and I have the time, energy, bandwidth, whatever to do that.

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Or no, I don't. Okay? The next thing, I guess number three is if you are not in a place financially to invest in yourself, invest in the free resources. Invest in the free resources. You guys, that means listening to podcasts, reading books, listening to audible books or the cheap options, right? Like Audible is gonna be a little bit of money. Buying books is gonna be a little bit of money. Unless you're going to the library watching YouTube videos, watching. Like I put out so much content, it's not even funny. You guys. I put out one to two podcasts per week. I do Instagram, I do Facebook Live. I put stuff up in Facebook, I write emails, you guys, all of these, I do blog postings, podcast slash blog postings for you guys to be able to consume this information at an accelerated rate. In addition to that, you guys, I have tons of additional free resources.

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You guys can head over to the show notes if you've never been there before. And check out the free resources that are available to you. There's hair guides, there's recipes, there's, I don't even know what I was all over there. There's a freedom from fatigue guide, there's all kinds of stuff. And literally all of it is for free. Okay? The next thing we're gonna go a step up. We're gonna start getting into like cheaper options for investing in yourself. Maybe pain, 20, 30 bucks, 40 bucks, even up to a hundred bucks might be a good option to get you one step closer to where you are at or where you want to be. Same thing with me in the show notes. You guys, like, maybe you can't spend, you know, hundreds of thousands of do, okay? My programs aren't hundreds of thousands. That was a bit of an exaggeration.

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Maybe thousands of dollars to work with myself or someone. I have very cheap recipe books. I have a four week course that I, that includes some testing I have. Like, there are things that are under a thousand dollars and they do go on sale from time to time. I mostly like talk about it on Instagram and in the Facebook group, not so much on the podcast. I'm trying to get better to do that. Cause my focus really at what the podcast is just to bring you value just to, for bring you good content. There are, and even if you guys don't know where to start, send me a message on Facebook or Instagram and I will help you get started. If you come to me and you say, listen, I am prioritizing my thyroid. I only have a hundred dollars, I only have $500, I only have, you know, 20 bucks or whatever.

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Like, what would be the best place for me to get started? I would tell you, I would be so honest with you and I would say, okay, tell me a little bit more about what you're experiencing. Tell me this. Tell me that, you know, okay, this one is gonna be the best option for you in terms of getting started. I have things, like I said, the wide, a wide range all the way up to working with me one-on-one. For a couple thousand dollars. It ends up being I dunno, I think it's like $500 a month maybe. Yeah, I think that, I think that's right. Maybe five 50. Anyways, there's a couple different payment options you guys, like I really try to work with everybody's budget when, when you guys come to work with me because that is really important to me that you guys are fitting your goals also within your financial means and your financial range.

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That's why like I try to be super transparent with my numbers and what I charge people to work with me, but I also hope and pray that you guys have the same respect for me. Just be like, this is what is in my budget and this is what is not. Because ultimately at the end of the day, you guys, you are worth investing in. You are worth spending the time, the energy listening, the podcast, downloading things putting your time and energy into the free stuff until you get to the point where you can invest in something more and more long term and maybe like more of a specific plan or guide for yourself. There you guys, there's tons of information and the one thing that I, I will say that I have found with people is our brain wants to fight to keep us safe.

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So if you walk into like my office or a naturopathic office or whatever and all of a sudden they're saying, it's gonna cost you $10,000 to work with me, I don't charge $10,000 just so you guys know <laugh>. But if they said it's gonna cost you $10,000 to work with me for the next six months, you're gonna go, holy crap, that's a lot of money because you probably have never spent that kind of money and you're gonna think immediately your brain is gonna go to, I can't afford that unless you have like unlimited funds, which I mean, I'm assuming the Aboriginal center here doesn't have unlimited funds. And some of you are gonna be in a place where you're so desperate, where you're like, okay, whatever. I'll figure out the financial part later. But most of you are gonna say, I can't afford that. And you're gonna think I'm a lost cause and I have no help and I will never be able to get the help that I need cause it's too expensive.

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Instead of saying, okay, how can I do this? And this is something that my husband and I have really tried to work and train our mind to, to shift to say, how can I X Y, Z? It may take me a little bit of time to get the money together. It may take me a little bit of time to fill in the blank, but if it's a goal and if it's a priority, we can always find away. Just wanna leave you guys with one extra thought as we begin to wrap up today's episode. And I feel like I just need to tell, I dunno at least one listener out there that, well, one of the things that I have my clients do is practice writing down 50 reasons why, 50 reasons why you're worth it, 50 reasons why you, were you worth it? <Laugh>, you know, 50 reasons why you wanna restore your thyroid, why 50 reasons why you want to fix your health.

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Because as you go through that process of writing down why things become much more real for us, it's no longer this like, well, I just want it because, you know, I wanna lose weight or I just want it because I wanna have more energy. Like we start to get down at 50 reasons is a lot you guys <laugh>. Like, it no longer becomes those surface level answers of like, you know, I want to feel better in my body. Well, I want my hair to stop falling out. Well, I, you know, we start to get to what is that gonna give you and how is it gonna make you feel and what is it gonna provide for you? And probably the reasons you don't even want to admit to yourself in the beginning.

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And like, I, I was talking to a friend, I don't know, a while ago, this has been, I dunno, probably over a year ago. And she told me, so she has business and she told me, she's like, you know, the reason I do this business is so near and dear to my heart that I haven't even told my husband. And she's like, it just, it makes me cry when I think about it. And it, it is just so powerful. I'm getting emotional here, <laugh>, it's so powerful for her. And the reason why every single day she wakes up and does the work that she does. And I think that that's so incredible, right? Like many of us go through this life doing things and making decisions without really knowing why we're doing things. And once we figure that out, we can start to change our thought process.

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We can change our perspective, we can change the actions that we take every single day. Because once you have the reasons why you want to have a healthy, strong body nailed down it, it makes it as if that's what you're gonna do. You become that person, you become that iden that, what is the word I'm trying to say? You begin to have that identity of the person who has X, y, z. And the really interesting thing about this friend that spoke to me about her situation and, and you know, why she is a practitioner and why she does the things that she does, you guys, if you knew her story and the level of struggle that she has had with her health, you would, you would have so much respect for her and you would only begin to see why it's so important.

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So she has Hashi Meadows as well, and she also has another autoimmune condition ulcer of colitis. And if you guys aren't familiar with that, it's where you essentially bleed from your, your large intestines and it's, you develop ulcers and things like that. And it's a really nasty, yucky, horrible autoimmune condition. And she told me, you know, why she <laugh>, why she does what she does, but one can only guess of how difficult and how challenging that would be for someone to go through. She, her health was in the toilet for a long time to the point where she had to have her mother-in-law move in with their family and take care of their kids and, and she missed out on over a year of her kids' lives because she was just trying to manage the pain. She was just trying to manage this autoimmune condition to very little, a veil <laugh>. And that was very challenging. And so I think all of us, even as I, I think about her and I talk about her like, my heart hurts because that is like, I would not want to miss out on any part of my kid's life. And that would, that enough, that alone for me would be enough for me to do whatever it took to get healthy and to be better and to feel better because my kids are my world.

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And honestly, having four girls is a huge reason why I do what I do as well. They're my motivation. I don't want them to have the same challenges and struggles that I have had hormonally, and I'm already starting to see, and my oldest daughter, you know, some patterns that I'm like, oh, I don't want that to happen. You know, she's, she's getting some acne. And I started <laugh> with acne. That was one of my things that that started for me. It actually later, I didn't get it until like late high school is when the acne kicked in for me. But I don't want that to be part of her story, and that is enough motivation for me to change some of my actions and to look at how can I best support her so she doesn't have to go through the Accutane and the birth control that completely wrecked my hormones even more than they were already wrecked at 17.

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All right, you guys, so your action items for today, write down your list of priorities or write down, actually start a little bit before that. Write down a list of actions that you want to take or the things that you feel like are important to you. And then go make a list of those things and rank them. What are the top priorities? What are the things that I can say yes to? What are the things that I can take off my plate? What are the things that I can move and adjust and, and whatever. And then start consuming free content. Prioritize reading books, listening to podcasts. Start with the free, make the changes. Don't just listen to that stuff. You guys. Take action.

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Take action. If I'm telling you to take a probiotic and you're not taking a probiotic, maybe start with taking a probiotic. Send me a DM on Instagram and be like, Hey, I'm looking for some recommendations for probiotics, which you know, which brands, which ones do you recommend people get started with? I will answer you, I will give you that information. <Laugh>, you know, if I'm telling you to eat more Whole Foods and you're like, I don't know how to do that. Send me a message, message on Instagram or head over to the show notes. I don't know what free resource resources I have in there. I will send you a seven day thyroid meal plan, no cost. You guys, like, I want you to be successful. I want you to experience the same level of freedom that I have. In addition to that, after that, if you are ready to invest in yourself even further and work on getting an individual protocol and individual testing to get specific on what you and your body need specifically, like,

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Then we can talk about that. But start with what is available to you right now and begin taking action. Because I know you guys, I know 100% if you implement what I share with you guys in these podcasts, you will have wins, you will have successes, you will feel and notice the difference in your energy levels. You're gonna notice things start to shift inside of your body. And your, your mind is naturally gonna think, man, if I did this and that was free and I got X, y, Z results, what would happen if I had an individualized protocol or plan built out for me? And then it becomes easier for you to invest in yourself financially. Or if you're like, I've already tried all of the things and I'm ready to invest, like absolutely book a call with me. We can talk. We will. There's no pressure, you guys. I just wanna make sure that working together is the right fit. And I challenge you, before you do those things, I want you to take time to write down 50 reasons why you're worth it. 50 reasons why you want to have good health, 50 reasons why you wake up every single morning and you do what you do.

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I know that that 50 reasons why is one, it's challenging. It's gonna push you a little bit outside of your comfort zone, but two, you're gonna have lasting change. It will change you as a person and you can continually go back to that exercise and do it over and over and over again because it's gonna become deeper. It's gonna be more meaningful as you do so. All right, you guys, thank you so much for joining me on today's episode. I will see you on the next

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Welcome to today's episode. We're gonna be talking about healthy food that blocks thyroid function. Yep, I said it. Healthy food can block thyroid function.

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Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Handsome Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast.

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All right, you guys. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. It is your host Shannon Hansen. And today we are talking now healthy food that is blocking thyroid function. Because you know what? It happens. How many of you out there, and I like, I get about 50 50. So some of the women that I work with, when we talk about it, we jump on a call, we're getting to know each other, we're seeing if it's a good fit to work together. About 50% of them say, I already eat clean. I already eat healthy. I take supplements, I exercise, I take my medication, I do da, da da da. And they're like, I still have no clue why I feel like garbage. Why I'm tired, why I'm fatigued, why the brain fog is there, why my hair is still falling out, why I'm still experiencing gas, bloating, constipation, you know, all of these symptoms because I'm doing everything that I know how to do.

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And then it gets to be my job to explain to them like, Hey, you could be doing all the things, but, and this is, this was me, you guys, like I I, I know I've shared this with you guys. I graduated in 2015 as a holistic wellness practitioner, right before I had baby number three in 2016. And I, my like major was in nutrition and in urban farming, I was growing my own food. At that point, we weren't raising our own like meat and chickens and, and beef and things like that. But since then we, we have started to control our food a little bit more because obviously when I went through the program and learned about nutrition and farming and stuff, we learned about all of the bad, scary, horrible, terrible things that happen, <laugh> in conventional farming and in conventional, like the growing of animals and how they're treated and things like that.

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And that's just like, I love meat. So I will probably never be vegetarian long term, but it's also really important for me to treat individual animals and people, humans animals. I <laugh> living things. That's the word that I'm looking for. Living things appropriately. Living things with love and care and respect. That was something that I learned growing up. My dad was a hunter and I remember like, so my dad was taught how to hunt by Native Americans and my dad never went for sports. He never got like the biggest deer or the biggest bear or whatever. He believed that whatever, I'm gonna get emotional, whatever animal put themselves in front of my dad to give them the opportunity was that animal, huh. <Laugh>

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Was sacrificing itself for my dad and for the use of like us eating it and consuming it and, and things like that. And so the way that like I view living animals is they are sacrificing their life for us. And it is our job as humans to treat them with love and care and compassion and, and love them and nurture them in knowing like what their purpose is. Okay? Obviously there's like some emotion there cuz I'm totally tearing up and anyways, so <laugh>, I, all of that to say like when I graduated from school is really important to me to eat healthy, eat to eat clean foods. I don't believe in like, you can never eat pizza again. You can never eat said thing again, I believe in balance. I believe in finding what that balance is for you and your body. And it's like I've talked about on here before, you, we are all genetically and metabolically different.

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So to give blanket statements as to you should eat such and such way is not my belief in my philosophy because I know that I react more to dairy products than I do to gluten, typically speaking, right? And I do have like a certain threshold of eating gluten. It's not part of my everyday diet, but I do consume it occasionally. And I take digestive enzymes when I'm eating. I take specific digestive enzymes. Let me say that, that help with the breakdown and absorption of dairy and gluten. And part of the reason for this, you guys is I have family members who struggle with eating disorders and, and having four daughters myself, I don't want my kids to ever develop a fear of food. Okay? It is vitally important for me to teach my children to have a good, healthy, loving relationship with food because food nourishes us.

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And that's the same thing. Like I believe that with my clients, I believe like I will give you every tool necessary and I am a hundred percent honest with everybody that gets on a call. Everybody that listens to the podcast, I tell all of you guys, I'm gonna ask you to go gluten free and dairy free for probably 60 to 90 days, okay? And during that time, you're gonna, your body's gonna like be able to hit the reset button. It's gonna restore it. We're gonna give it all of the tools and the mechanisms that it needs because gluten and dairy, we know. So gluten mimics thyroid hormones, okay? That is part of the reason why we avoid gluten and dairy, because of conventional dairy and the way that it animals are raised and processed and the hormo, excuse me, the hormones and the feed and everything that they get, it messes with our hormones as women. Excuse me.

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And so that is a reason why I have people go gluten free and dairy free for a short period of time is because I wanna be making sure that you are getting the maximum amount of nutrition and we remove those blockers to make sure that everything else is working optimally. Now, long term, my goal is to be able to get your body to a place where you can tolerate small amounts of gluten or you can tolerate small amounts of dairy or, or maybe lots of it <laugh>, like if you can go back to eating it all the time or whatever, like, great, like that's so wonderful. And I wanna share a quick story. We have a family member who has a, and this is kinda what is one of those things that has shaped my beliefs on, on food, okay? So we know that peanut allergies are super, super prevalent and we have a family member who has literally a life-threatening peanut allergy if she is exposed to it.

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If she smells it like it's anaphylactic shock, like she's like, EpiPen has to go to the hospital like dying, right? Pretty severe. And they took her to treatment and months and months in treatment, drove hours and hours and hours away from their home, back and forth every week to put her in this, this treatment to get her to be able to tolerate. She's now up to six peanuts, which is a small enough amount where like it's not as life-threatening for her. She can handle cross-contamination. So now going out to eat now going to eat around other people isn't as scary as, as it once was for these people. And so I believe that God designed us perfectly and that our bodies have this natural and innate ability to self-heal and to self-regulate if okay, big if, if we know what to do and how to do it.

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And that is one thing that I have strive for years and years and years of like my professional education and growth is to learn what and how, like how the body functions or how it should function and what mechanisms are needed to be put into place to allow the body to function optimally. This is why I don't do targeted nutrition, okay? And what I mean by that or targeted supplementation. So what I mean by targeted supplementation is you have inflammation. I'm gonna give you turmeric, right? Like to me, turmeric, yes, that's a great supplement. It's gonna help reduce inflammation, but it's not un it's not addressing the underlying issue of why the inflammation is there in the first place. And so identifying why is the inflammation there? Why is your body reacting in such a way is more important to me than to just reduce your inflammation.

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I wanna look at your environment, I wanna look at your food, your nutrition, your supplementation, how you're sleeping, how you're eating, how your hormones, how all of these things are playing together so that we can understand and identify what is causing that inflammation in the first place. That is root cause medicine. And I think a lot of people mistake that for like, or holistic health or functional medicine or whatever for like natural, right? Like, well, turmeric is natural. Like I'm not taking a steroid for the information I'm taking turmeric. And this is where I think as practitioners, sometimes we fail people because we just want to get them results. Like we just want help them feel better, do better, be better. And we don't always look for why is this happening? What things are outta balance inside the body that are causing it. So so that is one type of person that was way longer.

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The second type of person are people who get on the call and they're like, I could eat more veggies, I could probably clean up my diet. You know, I could probably, you know, cut some carbs a little bit cause breakfast. So I'll give you an example. I was on a call yesterday with a lady and she told me, you know, breakfast was sourdough bread with a coffee and then lunch and dinner were basically carbs based. And she's like, I know I need to add more veggies, but blah, blah blah. And I was like, well, do you feel like you are eating and consuming these carbs to deal with the fatigue? And she was like, oh yeah, absolutely. Like a hundred percent. And I was like, okay. So that person, it's not that she doesn't like veggies, it's not that she's a picky eater, it's not, you know, all of these things.

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It's that she's really trying to compensate for the lack of energy and she's doing that through carbohydrates. Ok, I've been there. So I fall into that category. The first category of, well, at least when I first started <laugh> when I first started, I was a super clean eater. Like I said, I had a large garden, we raised a lot of our own food. I made my own salsa. I make my own ketchup. I make my own what is that called? Barbecue sauce. Like I, I really make a lot from scratch. Now I don't require my clients to do that. I don't like if they're not into that, then totally fine. Like there's, there's always ways around that. I personally enjoy cooking. I enjoy preparing food for my family. I enjoy my kids. My husband being like, wow, this is way better than us going out to eat.

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It also has its negatives when I'm like, I want a night off of cooking. They're like, but your food is so much better. I'm like, ah, dang it. Like <laugh>. You know, so it's what it's, but overall that was a category that I fell into and I was supplements. I was doing all mys, I was eating all the healthy things and I was still having major constipation. I was still having migraines very frequently to where I would to call my husband or my mother-in-law or someone to come help take of kids. I was having a lot of joint pain and inflammation was having those fibromyalgia symptoms where I was just in so much pain and I couldn't even really isolate the pain. It was like this deep bone muscle pain that just would, I'd be standing there in the kitchen doing dishes and I would just come on and I would just be crying cause I was so much and I didn't understand why this was happening.

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And so what I have learned over the last six years is that some of the things that I was doing in regards to food and nutrition was not working properly. So healthy foods that are blocking thyroid function. Now, I'm not talking about Boyer. I know people out there will like, don't eat cruciferous vegetables. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is we as a thyroid community, it's not about cutting food. Okay? I hope you've gotten that so far. It's about learning how to our plates and structure our meals for optimal digestion. When you thyroid, you're under stress, chronic stress breaking.

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All right? That like, feels like it feels so heavy to say that. So it is so important and I'm okay, full transparency, I'm guilty of it today. I was working while I was eating. I should not be doing that <laugh>. You know, it's really important that when we eat that we're sitting, we're chewing our food, we're digesting our food. Even though I was working at the computer, I was really trying to make conscious efforts to chew my food break down. That's one of that. When we're in front of the TV when we're, you know, under a lot of stress or, you know, trying to like shovel food in our mouth is we're like, take goodbye. Two swallow, two swallow. And we're not turning our hood into that like mush. And that's where we start to, so in your mouth, your saliva actually begins to break down things like carbohydrates and other nutrients for the body.

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And so your digestion really starts actually in your brain when you're smelling, when you're thinking about food. And then the actual chemical mechanical breakdown inside of our first. So it really, really important that from we're chewing, we're breaking our, our food and then we're swallowing and we're doing so in a restful state so that our stomach can break down food and help us optimize is them learning how to combine or to build our plate. And everybody is genetically and metabolically different. And so we have to learn, you have to learn what is right for your body. I know that a what is considered oxidizer. And so I need higher amounts of protein, I need higher amounts of fat and I need lower amounts of carbohydrates. So I still eat carbs, I still have rice, I still have oats. I still do all the time that are carb based.

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But when I'm building my plate, the way that I'm looking at it is making sure that I have enough things in each category that are gonna keep meated for a long period of time. Cause if not, then I grabbing four sweets. I'm grabbing for carbs, I'm grabbing fast, easy, convenient foods. Some of my clients, theyre not fast oxidizer or oxidizer way. They build their plate different way. Build mine is why some, to lean towards macro counting is cause they think, oh, if I know gram per gram, you know how many carbs and how many fats. The the issue that I've seen with that is that people get comfortable eating within that cause they're, they're getting results, right? Like let's just say a 40, 30, 30 plan. So protein percent carbs, percent fat, that's like a typical weight loss program. Ok. People will start doing that and then they just eat the same thing over and over and over again. And those micronutrients, the, the vitamins, minerals, omega fatty acids, antioxidants, all of those, those nutritional needs are not being met. And then we health issues that wide range, range and a wide variety of food and nutrition inside of our, so I'm here out there is one that I see with the clients that I work with. You can freaking have coffee or caffeine if you wanna, ok, but know this, okay? There's two things you need to know. Number one, caffeine to thyroid medication, even within an hour is going to walk thyroid hormone.

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Interesting, right? So most of my women who are struggling with energy wake up in the morning, they go to their coffee, they, well, they take their medication, a lot of them take it when they get outta bed in the morning and then they take a shower, get dressed ready for the day, and then they go grab a pot of coffee and then they run out the door. So my, my challenge to you, or my advice to you would be do your thyroid medication, do all of that morning and ritual. But instead of coffee, protein, breakfast, that's gonna give you good sustainable energy. One of the places that I recommend start is with a protein shake in the morning. It's quick, it's easy, you're drinking it, you can grab it, you can go right? You're all morning protein and around nine 10 in the morning if you still want your coffee, have your thyroid, thyroid breakfast and then use your, your coffee.

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Ok? So that's gonna be advice number one. Number two, to improve digestion. One of the things that I see women will eat fruit with protein. So I'm trying to think of an example. The only one that I'm coming up with is like chicken and pineapple salsa, right? Like, ooh, super yummy, super tasty. Like it's got like a grilled chicken and you know, rice and whatever. Super great. However, when you have thyroid eating something like that is not supporting digestion optimally in the beginning. So what we need to do, and you, I actually see this a lot for breakfast. Let's just go back to the protein smoothies really quickly. So when you're having protein, this smoothie is gonna be a little bit different. If you add in fruit and things like that, my recommendation would be that it like a vegan option or a plant-based protein that's gonna help with digestion as well.

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Okay, so going back to the chicken and or actually, so the chicken and pineapple, that's be one example. I see a lot of doing this for snack. They'll have like I don't know, Turkey slices and an apple or you know whatever. It's, what we want be doing is if you're gonna eat fruit. And I do recommend that you eat fruit. I typical tell people to eat fruit for, for snacks, then pair it with a healthy fat and then eat your protein for your meals and so on and so forth. So hopefully this was super helpful and you guys gained value. If you did, head over to Instagram, take a screenshot of this and send to me. Let me know that you were listening and I'll see you on the next

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You guys, I have a special treat for you today. I am talking with Joanna. Now, I didn't forget about this interview, but this was an interview that I did with Joanna back in February, 2021. We she essentially is sharing her story with us, and you guys may remember her husband, her husband is, was on the episode 66, I believe. Hold on, let me double check. <Laugh> double check this where we're talking about the silent or 65. Okay, it should be 65. The silent struggles that your husband faces when you have hypothyroidism. And so it's actually really, really interesting to listen to both of them and their stories and their perspectives on what they were going through without really sharing with each other <laugh> what the other one was like, what they were thinking because they were trying to shield and guard and protect their loved one.

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And the thing that I find so interesting about this is, this is something that I'm pretty sure is pretty universal <laugh>. When you are in a loving, committed relationship, you oftentimes don't want to share with the other person what you are going through and how it's affecting you. And I know, okay, I wasn't planning on talking about this at the beginning, but we're gonna do <laugh>, just go ahead and do it. So I know a lot of the women who want to come work with me and they say, yep, I wanna work with you. I need to talk to my husband about it. They go talk to their husband, they come back and they're like, you know, my husband isn't fully on board. Because a big part of it is they don't fully understand or recognize what is going on and how it's impacting you every single day because you're shielding that part of you that is like not feeling well.

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The, the headaches, the migraines, the fatigue, the pain in your body, the heavy menstrual cycles. Part of it is they don't understand cuz they're a man. But another part of it is you masking what is going on and like, just not wanting to fully tell them how much it is impacting you and how much it is affecting you emotionally, physically, psychologically. Because we as women, our job is to just keep going, keep going, keep going. And I had a naturopathic doctor a few years ago. He was like how did he say it? He was like, women are like the energizer bunny. They just keep going and going and going. And they, when they're so stressed out and when they hit this level of burnout, this is when they develop autoimmunity. This is when they develop these chronic diseases. And yet you women keep going <laugh>.

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And I was like, oh. And he's like, if it's a man, he has a heart attack and he dies and that's it. He just, he just dies. And, and I was like, that is so interesting. And I, since that period of time, I have looked around at friends, family members. Well, I don't actually think anybody in my family, any of the men, let me say, have had heart attacks, but people we've gone to church with. And I know that the men that have had heart attacks and had major things and been very, very close to death in that regard, when that came for them, they were stressed out, they were burdened. They were to the point of overwhelm, burnout. And I've watched friend after friend after friend, woman after woman after woman, client after client, after client struggle with that level of burnout. And yet they just push through.

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Well, this is just my new normal. I'm just gonna keep going. Holy fricking moly, <laugh>. So anyways, I hope you find this episode listening to Joanna insightful, inspiring, and I hope you can find some peace to know that you're not alone, but more importantly that you matter and that it is important for you to take care of yourself. It's like that oxygen mask. If you don't put that oxygen mask on first, everybody else around you is gonna be struggling. So here's my challenge to you <laugh>. Listen to today's episode, which aam it, and then go back to episode 65 and listen to her husband because I think it will be very enlightening for you. And I hope you share some of this with your husband as well and open up that dialogue. All right, I'll see you inside. Welcome back to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands.

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Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner, and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the Revolutionary Thyroid Program, the Handsome Method. As a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once and for all. Each week I will be here for you, along with my guest experts. We will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envisioned for yourself.

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Welcome to the Thriving Thyroid Podcast. All right. Hey guys, welcome to today's conversation. We have Joanna here with us and we're gonna be talking about her experience through the Hanson method and why she came to work with us and just kind of some of the struggles and the, and the things that she was experiencing before, kind of in the middle and then where she is now and what her health journey looks like in regards to her thyroid, her body, her breathing which was a big thing and, and all of that. So thanks Joanna, for being on today.

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Oh, thank you for having me.

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Yeah, I'm excited for this conversation. So let's begin at the, at the beginning. So when you came to me, right when we started having conversations in private messenger and you know, got on the call, where were you? What was going on with your, with your health?

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Oh my gosh, I was in a really bad place. I was struggling. Didn't know what the heck was going on. I was struggling with breathing. That was my biggest complaint, not being able to eat a lot of different foods just because something was like aggravating the breathing even more. Not sleeping well and just not feeling good at all. I would kind of say that I was depressed to some point and had anxiety like crazy too. Like, I'm gonna be like this forever. There's no hope.

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Yeah.

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Yeah,

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I remember that. And it's funny you say food was triggering some things I had completely forgot about that <laugh>.

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Oh yeah. That was a big, big thing for me. It was like, I don't know if it was just food on top of everything else or if it was just, I don't know, different things triggering different symptoms. I have no idea, but I'm better <laugh>, that's all. Yeah.

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That, that's all that matters. And so you were working with a naturopathic doctor.

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Yes.

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Right. And you have background in medicine, right? So you are working front office and back office. Yeah, right at the, at a doctor's. So you have medical knowledge, you have medical background, you have understanding of the body, right?

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Definitely.

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Yeah. And so what kind of pushed you into scheduling a call and, and starting that, that conversation with us?

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I guess it was at the point of not knowing what else to do before I started working with the naturopathic doctor. I was just going to just a regular MD and he didn't want to do anything. He's like, here, go to a psych evaluation, take these pills for anxiety. I was like, no, that's not what's wrong. So that's what made me go to a naturopathic doctor and he's great and all that, but again, he only has a limited time. It's just a normal 10 15 minute appointment and that's it. It's like, okay, that's all. I only get one little thing to say and then on my way, and even though he's great, it's still wasn't enough. It's like I still have something more going on and I, I can't afford to be going into his office every, every week with this new, this one new symptom.

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Right. So I started looking into different groups and I'm like, I have to find answers. There has to be somebody out there who has dealt with this or is going through this that has some kind of little inch of wisdom that can like lead me down somewhere. And then I found your group and started reading people's stuff in there. And then I started seeing you go live in there and then me and you started talking and it was the call that me and you had that really is like, she gets it. Like she totally gets it. I got off the phone with my husband and I was like, oh my gosh, she totally gets it. She knows what the heck I'm going through. I think that was the turning point. It was like somebody actually knows what I'm feeling.

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Yeah.

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So that is what made me sign up <laugh>.

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Yeah. Well, and I wanna just kind of stop here for a second too, because you didn't enroll on the call with me, right? You took time, you went and talked to your husband, you had that conversation with him and you made sure that that was gonna be the best thing for you and you were looking for something different than a doctor, right? You were looking for the coaching, the mentorship, the, the handholding. I, I don't even have the, the right language cuz it's not really handholding. Right? Right. It's more tools and tips and strategies to get you from point A to point B. So yeah, let's kind of switch gears here and talk about what kind of obstacles were you facing in the middle of the program because health is not a linear thing. <Laugh>, right? It comes like up and down and up and down. So within, we got you a protocol, right? We knew you were having breathing issues, we wanted you to go on a specific diet, a meal plan, a lifestyle mm-hmm. <Affirmative> that reduces that inflammation. So tell us about that, that nutrition plan that you were on and what, what happened there?

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So the nutrition plan the first one, yes, I started that I was already on my own nutrition plan because when I started this I came in just being vegetarian mostly. And then I got on the plan and I was like, oh, okay. It's pretty e easy to implement because it was mostly the founda, the foundation was already laid with what I was doing on my own. But then having that step-by-step thing of knowing what to eat, breakfast, lunch and dinner, it solidified it. And then I was able to see what like trigger triggers were like messing me up <laugh> and yeah, that I didn't sh did I struggle, I, I guess I struggled when it came to wanting stuff that was not on the meal plan. <Laugh>.

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Yep.

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So yeah, that was my biggest struggle. It was like, oh man, everybody else is eating this and I really want some. And I did have some sometimes, but then I would come back and I'd be like, that should not have happened because now I feel awful. <Laugh>.

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Yes. Yeah.

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I think

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Well go ahead

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Now. It's just amazing to see those things happen. You know, things that you're not supposed to be eating and then you feel gross when you do it.

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Yeah. Because I mean, and that's partly because your body is in like a healing state and then we go back to, not that you were doing this but eating like a donut and you're like whoa, okay, that <laugh>, oh that really didn't feel so good. You know? I wanna talk about something really quickly. As long as you're cool with this. When you started the program you were using an inhaler a couple times a day, right? Because breathing was the biggest issue for you. So how many times a day prior to making any changes were you using that inhaler?

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Oh my gosh. My regular, my regular inhaler albuterol, I was probably using it three to four times a day. And then I was also using another inhaler on top of that flovet. And then I went to another one, I forgot the name of it and I was using that twice a day as well. Okay. A lot.

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Yes, yes. And after going on like the antihistamine diet and bringing down some of that inflammation, I feel like it was within a week. I think it was like the next week you came on and you're like,

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Yes,

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You're not using

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Yeah, I stopped drinking coffee and that That's right. Yeah. That was my biggest thing is the coffee. I stopped drinking the coffee, I was like, I can breathe. It took a while. Like it didn't happen like instantaneously like oh I didn't take the coffee and I'm good now. No, it was like a process and I think it was just my body ridding myself of all this stuff that coffee caused over 15 years and yeah, I was like, I can breathe. But then again it was still other foods that were also triggering more.

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Yes. Well and <laugh>, speaking of foods in one of our like, I think it was a weekly win, we were like, Hey, you know, what is your weekly win or whatever and you're like, I've identified that green beans are giving me issues. And I was like, green beans,

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I remember that because I don't know if it was part of the meal plan or something, but on our journaling I had, I had put in there the week prior I ate green beans and then the following, it was on a Monday. Cuz then on Tuesday when I woke up that first week I was like, oh, I don't know if I'm gonna make this call with Chris cuz I feel awful. And then it happened again the next week and I'm like, why am I feeling like this? Am I nervous about these calls with Chris? Oh no, I love Chris. Like what's happening? And then she's like, maybe you need to look at your food journals. I was like, you're right. And I had had green beans both nights and I'm like, oh my gosh. So it's

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So

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Crazy. I cut them out and I did not feel like that again.

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Amazing. Yes. Amazing. And it's so interesting. I like, it's so random to me and probably cuz we eat a lot of green beans in this house, my husband and that's his like favorite vegetable, so we always have

(17:14):

Yeah, they're so good. Yeah. I dunno why my body does, does not like them.

(17:20):

So funny. Yeah. Okay, so let's kind of switch gears again and let's talk about where are you now? Like what does your life look like now and, and all of those fun things?

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Life for me now is a lot better. I haven't used my inhaler in probably two and a half, three weeks. Not once.

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Not once. Oh, that's amazing.

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Yes, it's amazing. It's like life changing. I'm eating a lot more than I was able to before I started your plan without feeling gross and just nasty. I'm, I have hope again, I think that's my biggest thing is like I have hope that there is a future for me because for a while there I was like, this is my life. I'm do, I'm done forever <laugh>, I'm gonna feel like crap forever.

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Yeah.

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And that's not it anymore.

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Yeah. Well I remember when you were on the call with me the first time, and I'm gonna get emotional here, but you told me you had quit your job. Yes. Because you were having a hard time breathing. You were having to wear a mask at work and I was like, oh my gosh. Like this lady <laugh>

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<Laugh>.

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Because that's a big thing.

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Yeah, it was and it was, it was really hard cuz I loved that job. It was so amazing. The doctor was great. He, I, I always tell him like, you saved my life because he was the one that was really like, no, you need to go get tested for this. They need to do this. You need to make sure you go to a naturopath. You need to find answers and Okay, okay <laugh> and yeah, just having to leave him and he was a great support system for me, you know, and I was like it sucked, but I'm glad that I'm feeling better now that my body is healing and I'm on a journey to heal my body through, I guess foods and natural stuff rather than all these other things that the doctor wanted me to do.

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Yeah, yeah. And versus suppressing some of those things. Right. A lot of medication they suppress the symptoms versus, and I say this all the time, are symptoms are our greatest asset to know what is happening inside the body. Yeah. Right. And we did do the urine test, we did the oats testing with you and we didn't see mold in your digestive tract, but that doesn't mean that it's not in, you know, your lungs or other areas of your body that are impacting. And so you're on a, a current protocol to kind of clean house a little bit, do a little bit of a detox. Where, how long have you been on that? Has that been three weeks or two weeks?

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No, that's barely been since last Monday, so Okay. Yeah. Eight days

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And we're already seeing some fun changes with that dude, <laugh>.

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Oh yeah. Overall I do feel better. Like, like I said, I haven't used the inhaler and I've been more mentally alert, which was very interesting. I can, I'm like, whoa, I can think. Okay, this is great. And passing a parasite, I think <laugh> the one. Yep. So yeah, <laugh>

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Parasites have been a hot topic in our group. <Laugh>. Yeah. A lot of people are going through some cleansed right now because we know that parasites are, they impact, you know, our lungs, they impact our breathing, they impact heart palpitations and the absorption of food and sugar. Cras

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Things. <Laugh>.

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Yeah. And I, I mean if you continue to pa you know, pass things we just continue to see the growth or not even the growth, but the, the healing of the body. Right. The body can self-heal, it can self-correct. Is there, hold on, there was something else. Oh, are you open to telling people what you're doing now?

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Yeah.

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Okay, go for it.

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I started school to eventually be a certified traditional naturopath.

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Yay. I'm so excited. I like, seriously, that lights me up because I think when you were telling me about this, this was a goal of yours from a long time ago.

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Yes, it was. It's, oh my gosh, that's been my dream since I was a kid to be a doctor and I tried, I have everything to go right into med school, I have all my pre-reqs, everything needed, but it just wasn't for me. I kept looking, I'm like, I can't, I can't. And having that close working relationship with my old employer and I was running his office and really seeing, and I'm like, I don't think I want to work like this. Like, yeah, no, I cannot do this. 10, 15 minute office visits and just really seeing like, no, this isn't for me. I can't do this.

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Yeah.

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And then talking to you and seeing that there is other ways to help people and help myself and help my family, that's really what sparked them. Like, I can do this. This is something that I can do.

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Yeah. Well I am beyond thrilled to be, and I don't even feel like I should take credit for this, but to be that person that inspires you to do what you wanted to do, to, to see a different way. And in health, in our life and diet and nutrition, in anything in our life, I think if we begin to learn and we can look outside the box of what the norm is, that's where we find progression. That's where we find, you know, healing for the body. That's where we find the things that we want in, in our life. And I think that that is just so, it's so amazing. So thank you for sharing. Is there any last thoughts or anything else that you would like to share with the listeners about your journey or about, you know, investing in themselves or anything like that?

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Yes. If you're thinking about investing and you're scared, just do it. Like the money will come. I really have a deep, deep, deep how do you say it? Knowing I guess that it'll come if that's what you're supposed to do. Me and my husband weren't in a financial position to do it just because I had just quit my job. We lost half of our income and when we did sign up, we just felt like, okay, we needed to make this investment and we did it. And I kid you not within a month he got a job that paid for your whole course with your whole thing. So I was like, oh, okay. So I always have God in my mind is like, all right, if this is what I'm supposed to do, you're gonna take care of it. And yeah, he did.

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Yeah. And your husband is self-employed, right? So he, he contracts or I know he does work for himself, but then he also does some contract work for other businesses, right?

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Yeah. So he's a chaplain by day and then <laugh>, he does music on his own. So that's his self-employment.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Good job. That paid it all.

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Yeah. Which is amazing. I mean it really is. I'm also a firm believer that more money can be made.

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Oh yeah. It's just money. It comes and goes. And the health and all the knowledge that I got from you and Chris, it oh my gosh, it's life changing. I would recommend it for any everybody, because I wouldn't be here without you guys.

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Oh, you're so sweet. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate you being here and being open and vulnerable with us. And it's been amazing to watch your transformation in terms of, you know, where you were at the beginning and then where you're at now and continuing your progress because it's allowed you the opportunity to live out your life dream, whatever, whatever the dream is right for you. It was going back and becoming a doctor and I am

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That is so exciting for me just because that's what I do. Not, I'm not a doctor, but that's also on my to-do list one day. And like you, you just pray for the timing and you pray for to know when it's right. And unfortunately I haven't felt that yet, <laugh>. But anyways, I loved this conversation, so thank you for being here. And if you guys have any questions, you can leave them below. We'll come back and answer them and give you all of the help and support that you need.

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Before you go, I want to make an offer to you guys. Now, there's no pressure here, but if you are like me and you just wanna get to the root of the issue and you want help and you want guidance and you just wanna know what to do, and you are an action taker and you are highly ambitious, we have several spots that are open for the Hanson method. Our schedule fills up very quickly. So if you are interested in getting in, filling out an application and joining us, please take the time to visit the show notes and schedule your thyroid breakthrough call. We will be talking to you about what is holding you back, where do you wanna go, how do you wanna feel, and then give you our personal and professional recommendations on the next step for you so that you can get outta this thyroid chaos once and for all.

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